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Post by puckshaw on Apr 30, 2006 13:50:40 GMT -5
Well, I've had the car for about 4-5 months now and I think it's about time to get involved in some events. Never autocrossed before (or any organized racing for that matter except for a few runs at the drag strip). I'm still reading through all the rules and trying to sort out what class I'll be in. There's not too much done to my car but I think my 255/40/17 tires will complicate things a little. They're going on the car in about a week.
Anyways, I'm hoping to make it out to the May 13/14 events and see how it goes. Should be lots of fun! ;D
Nate
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Post by C4Shane on Apr 30, 2006 15:59:54 GMT -5
Hi Nate. Good to see ya on the forum! Sounds like you are ready to take a big step with the car. I am not a Subie expert, but there is no lack of them in the club - so someone can help you with classing, etc. Check out the novice threads for classing info and also you will want to look over Kate Hughes Solo Handbook, which is free from TireRack.com. Another novice thread includes the link.
Feel free to ask questions! See you soon.
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Post by puckshaw on Apr 30, 2006 18:11:50 GMT -5
Thanks saabstory. Yup, I'm about to read through Kate's handbook  I think my tires put me into SM. The only other stuff I have done is a TBE, ECUtek tune, springs, strut bars, and an intake will be going on the car in the next couple weeks. I'm not really worried about getting smoked in whatever class I'm in, just want to have fun and learn the car better  Nate |
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Post by jbyrd on Apr 30, 2006 19:20:50 GMT -5
Tires by themselves shouldn't put you in street mod. Are you changing wheels? If you are not changing wheels, you can run any size tire you want and stay in stock class (as long as the tire is DOT approved). Even if you are changing wheels, it's more likely you would move to a street prepared class than street mod. Or for that matter, a street touring class (like STS) if your tires have a treadwear rating of 140 or higher. See this thread ccrscca.proboards51.com/index.cgi?board=solo2&action=display&thread=1145363809&page=1#1145363809 |
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Post by lagunamiata on Apr 30, 2006 19:28:33 GMT -5
If your wheels were an option from the dealer on your car, you can run in A-Stock.
If they are aftermarket, or you've changed anything other than the air filter and front sway bar, you're kicked into STU. From your mod list, it sounds like STU is the class for you.
Come on out and have fun!! There are a great group of Subie drivers that will help you out with getting the STi around the course!!
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Post by puckshaw on May 1, 2006 8:11:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the help guys. Yeah I was originally thinking STU would be my class but I thought the tire limit for AWD was 245. My tires are on the original wheels (8") but are 255's. I wasn't sure how strict the rules are. Also, I don't even know know which classes are more competitive and which one I should try to fit into. I'll keep reading up on the rules and hopefully figure this out. I can't wait to get out there! Nate |
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Post by puckshaw on May 1, 2006 8:12:40 GMT -5
Oh and the original tire size was 225/45/17...
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Post by lagunamiata on May 1, 2006 8:39:16 GMT -5
I doubt anyone will care until you start winning! I'd say to sign up in STU Novice and just have fun.
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Post by puckshaw on May 1, 2006 8:53:26 GMT -5
Haha yeah I'll be lucky to find my way through the course I've watched videos of guys autocrossing and I have to admit the courses look pretty confusing  Anyways, STU novice it is then |
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Post by lagunamiata on May 1, 2006 9:27:50 GMT -5
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Post by puckshaw on May 1, 2006 16:23:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the videos! Some of that stuff looks very confusing I'm gonna be all over the place when I get out on one of these courses  Nate |
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Post by lagunamiata on May 1, 2006 18:21:36 GMT -5
Any of the regulars will gladly ride with you and give you pointers. Also grab one of us and have us do the course walk with you. That'll help too.
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Post by C4Shane on May 2, 2006 7:47:16 GMT -5
Walk walk walk the course....That is very critical to not getting a DNF (and the workers appreciate you not running them over LOL)
Funny story - several years ago I worked a position on one course and the same BMW drove thru our work station on all 4 runs - apparently didn't notice us gesturing the correct course line to him....and didn't stop to ask directions...You haven't lived until you have tried to outrun a M3.
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Post by clint on May 2, 2006 19:58:36 GMT -5
Even if you are changing wheels, it's more likely you would move to a street prepared class than street mod. Or for that matter, a street touring class (like STS) if your tires have a treadwear rating of 140 or higher.  ;D , but "ECUtek tune" sounds like an ECU hack/chip/ROM burn, which I'm not certain about for STU either. I know in STS, the ECU itself must remain stock and unhacked, except a VTEC controller (gee, can you tell that class had Hondas in mind?) or fuel controller can slot between the stock ECU and sensors. I suppose the ECU hack would be most problematic if it altered boost, or put timing out of stock parameters... Even so, like Laguna says, "I doubt anyone will care until you start winning!" ;D |
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Post by lagunamiata on May 2, 2006 21:05:23 GMT -5
The ST supplement puts the STi in STU. STU uses the STX rules with allowances for the other cars. So if the ECU hacks aren't legal in STX, they aren't legal in STU.
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Post by jbyrd on May 2, 2006 21:10:06 GMT -5
The ST supplement puts the STi in STU. STU uses the STX rules with allowances for the other cars. So if the ECU hacks aren't legal in STX, they aren't legal in STU. I think there's a thread in SCCA Forums - Street Touring forum right now. If I rem correctly, had something to do with a protest in the recent Houston Pro Solo. Maybe. |
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Post by puckshaw on May 3, 2006 8:25:06 GMT -5
Ok so I think I may have been right in thinking I don't qualify for STU. The ECUtek reflash definitely changed boost levels. Stock STi's run about 14.5 psi, I'm running around 18.5. The TBE stands for turbo back exhaust (downpipe, midpipe, and catback). So what catagory would I be in, SM? I'm not trying to step on anybodies toes and would prefer to be in the legal class for my car regardless of how bad I'm getting smoked Thanks guys, Nate |
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Post by Imprezivblue on May 3, 2006 9:01:08 GMT -5
Ok so I think I may have been right in thinking I don't qualify for STU. The ECUtek reflash definitely changed boost levels. Stock STi's run about 14.5 psi, I'm running around 18.5. The TBE stands for turbo back exhaust (downpipe, midpipe, and catback). So what catagory would I be in, SM? I'm not trying to step on anybodies toes and would prefer to be in the legal class for my car regardless of how bad I'm getting smoked Thanks guys, Nate You're in BSP then. Boost is ulimited now in *SP classes on stock turbos, etc. Intercoolers are unlimited. You're not in STU because your ECUtek reflash alters boost levels. This is permitted in BSP. You could run SM if you'd like, but I wouldn't recommend it considering you're legal for BSP. |
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Post by puckshaw on May 3, 2006 10:38:33 GMT -5
Cool thanks, I didn't realize that was legal for SP. Just changed my registration to BSP Nate |
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Post by clint on May 3, 2006 20:09:17 GMT -5
I'm not trying to step on anybodies toes and would prefer to be in the legal class for my car regardless of how bad I'm getting smoked
Tara is spot on about the recent Street Prepared changes. If you run in an "indexed" class, like Novice, where differently classed cars' times are modified using the mathmatical "PAX" formula, Street Prepared will be better than Street Mod. Since it's a "lower" class, your times wouldn't be penalized as much. This might be why she recommends it. I'll have to check back and see if you're registered as a Novice; I can't recall offhand.
If you end up really getting into this, you could get another set of wheels with R compound tires, and still be in BSP! |
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Post by ROADBOY on May 4, 2006 14:58:39 GMT -5
Nate,
Like Clint said, I also commend you for trying to play by the rules. Even if your not right on, your still trying. A lot of people give up.
Sounds like you have a really nice car there. I have allways liked the Impreza, in all trims. I look foward to meeting you. I will be there both days in my 85 Honda CRX. It's white with a black hood and will be hard to miss.
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Post by C4Shane on May 5, 2006 10:27:21 GMT -5
Hey Roadboy!! What's the status of your Fram-modified Honda? Hopefully the damage was minimal and you can get back at it in Emod!
BTW - got an Avon 9-inch slick on a 9-inch wheel that I can't get the one bead to seat (had it up to 60PSI and skeered to go higher). Any ideas?...I think it either was not seated, or came unseated...bought wheels/tires used from ebay...
I'll send ya a PM just in case you have some ideas.
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Post by damnyankee on May 5, 2006 13:50:02 GMT -5
Hey Roadboy!! What's the status of your Fram-modified Honda? Hopefully the damage was minimal and you can get back at it in Emod! BTW - got an Avon 9-inch slick on a 9-inch wheel that I can't get the one bead to seat (had it up to 60PSI and skeered to go higher). Any ideas?...I think it either was not seated, or came unseated...bought wheels/tires used from ebay... I'll send ya a PM just in case you have some ideas. Soapy water on the bead used to work. |
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Post by ROADBOY on May 5, 2006 16:56:39 GMT -5
D**nyankee38 has the right idea. I sent ya a PM saabstory.
O, and my civic needs a shortblock rebuild. Darn fram!
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Post by damnyankee on May 6, 2006 21:24:26 GMT -5
Hey Roadboy!! What's the status of your Fram-modified Honda? Hopefully the damage was minimal and you can get back at it in Emod! BTW - got an Avon 9-inch slick on a 9-inch wheel that I can't get the one bead to seat (had it up to 60PSI and skeered to go higher). Any ideas?...I think it either was not seated, or came unseated...bought wheels/tires used from ebay... I'll send ya a PM just in case you have some ideas. Soapy water on the bead used to work. The other thing that might work is, take a belt (yes, yours) and wrap it around the outside of the tire. Pull it tight. and then inflate the tire. The belt will force the tire to expand on the sidewall, rather than the tread. |
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Post by C4Shane on May 7, 2006 9:43:05 GMT -5
Kewl...thanks...will give those ideas a try. Fortunately, I have enough tires for this next weekend, but will need these for the 24 hours for sure. The Fiesta will look darn funny with these big suckers.....
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Post by damnyankee on May 7, 2006 19:42:26 GMT -5
Don't forget to remove your belt!!
Could make it a VERY bumpy ride!!
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Post by C4Shane on May 7, 2006 19:51:20 GMT -5
Yeah, cuz my pants would fall around the pedals...  ;D |
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;D , but "ECUtek tune" sounds like an ECU hack/chip/ROM burn, which I'm not certain about for STU either. I know in STS, the ECU itself must remain stock and unhacked, except a VTEC controller (gee, can you tell that class had Hondas in mind?) or fuel controller can slot between the stock ECU and sensors. I suppose the ECU hack would be most problematic if it altered boost, or put timing out of stock parameters... Even so, like Laguna says, "I doubt anyone will care until you start winning!" ;D
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