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Post by z3elda on Oct 17, 2011 12:36:21 GMT -5
Making my wishlist for Christmas...
Would like to hear recommendations for a Battery Impact Gun?
Anybody know anything about Longacre Racing Products?
Thanks!
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Post by leetaylor92 on Oct 17, 2011 13:25:53 GMT -5
We have always had good luck with Dewalt products in my family, super tough and god knows how many battery packs laying around that still work
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Post by subydude on Oct 17, 2011 14:09:03 GMT -5
I've had good luck with the harbor freight brand, but found they only really go to about 75 ft/lbs for removal and install. Luckily Subaru specs the torque to 75 so I've been happy.
My co-driver has a Dewalt that takes his 100 ft/lbs Mustang lug nuts off no problem, but we have to be careful when using it to tighten or it will get to tight.
Basically, once you know the wheel torque you want to use, find a gun rated to it.
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Post by lagunamiata on Oct 17, 2011 14:15:19 GMT -5
Per had a "Goodyear" brand one (I think) that did a nice job.
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Post by MattP on Oct 17, 2011 14:20:47 GMT -5
I've had good luck with the harbor freight brand, but found they only really go to about 75 ft/lbs for removal and install. Luckily Subaru specs the torque to 75 so I've been happy. My co-driver has a Dewalt that takes his 100 ft/lbs Mustang lug nuts off no problem, but we have to be careful when using it to tighten or it will get to tight. Basically, once you know the wheel torque you want to use, find a gun rated to it. The old HF guns up until 4 or 5 years ago were awesome, then they changed the design and they sucked. I have a Goodyear branded one that's going on 5 years working great. It is sporadically available at Pep Boys. Now have a 18V DeWalt that is way better, but it did cost 2.5 times what the Goodyear did. |
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Post by lancer360 on Oct 17, 2011 23:34:45 GMT -5
I would stick with one of the name brand 18V ones, like Dewalt, Hitachi, etc. You will have a better chance of getting replacement batteries in the future. If you are handy around the house and use other cordless tools like a drill, flashlight, saw, etc. this will also keep all your batteries interchangeable. This means only one charger instead of multiple charges taking up space on the work bench. I have a 14.4V Hitachi and it is borderline to take the lugs off Elise (77 ft-lbs tightening), but I mainly got it for the F600 (40 ft-lbs). Don't use it for achieving full torque on your lug nuts. They just aren't very accurate. Some cars can be sensitive to tweaking the rotor if you don't torque them evenly. My Hitachi has a low and high power setting. I use the low power to run the lug nuts down and then use a proper torque wrench to tighten them up the last bit. Works like a champ as I usually only need about 1/2 a turn with the torque wrench to get the proper value.
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Post by 1slowcrx on Oct 18, 2011 1:00:27 GMT -5
If money is an issue, the goodyear was great. But, I had to buy two of them in just as many years.
Since, I've been using a Snap On 18v and it's beyond awesome. The number of times I've found myself saying "man this thing rocks" is just staggering. I've never met a bolt it won't take off and it can make it through two auto-x's with three cars (tires on, tires off) with a single charge. When it does finally die, it takes 20 minutes to charge the battery. 20 MINUTES!
It's awesome. Also, don't be put off by the retail price. Feinberg got one off Ebay with two batteries for $200 earlier this year.
I'm a cheap ass but sometimes the extra money is worth the extra quality. This is a great example of that principle.
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Post by z3elda on Oct 18, 2011 6:19:33 GMT -5
Yeah Stephen, I hate buying stuff over and over. I'd rather buy the best I can afford (in line with its intended use), and in some cases just hold off buying anything until I can afford it. I'm trolling eBay already, and just wanted to see what others were using and abusing.
88 Ft-Lbs is the target torque, and a Torque wrench is on the list too.
Thanks!
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Post by MattP on Oct 18, 2011 7:30:59 GMT -5
You can go cheap on the torque wrench, the 1/2" one that goes on sale for $9.99 pretty frequently at HF is just as accurate as any wrench I've checked it against...
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Post by srduck on Oct 18, 2011 12:51:50 GMT -5
You can go cheap on the torque wrench, the 1/2" one that goes on sale for $9.99 pretty frequently at HF is just as accurate as any wrench I've checked it against... It was on sale a few weeks ago when we were there. I'll scour through my HF ads and see if I can find the coupon for it which MAY still be good. If I do I'll bring it to Carowinds for you. It's the torque wrench I use, and even when it's NOT on sale it's still only $20 or so. |
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Post by 1slowcrx on Oct 19, 2011 1:12:44 GMT -5
Matt's right about the torque wrench... I'm rocking the $9.99 HF and it out performs my ~$100 Craftsmen every time. Hold's calibration better, doesn't have weird ratcheting problems, and doesn't get stolen because everyone knows it was $10.
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Post by infernoz28 on Oct 19, 2011 13:49:02 GMT -5
Longacre Racing are pretty good. But for the money I would get a snap on 18v. Just depends if you want a 3/8ths or a 1/2 in drive. I would stay away from the cheep ones just because they do not produce near enough torque to be useful. The Goodyear ones are really good for a less expensive one. I dislike the dewalt because they have a pin detente on the drive so you have to push a pin through the socket to take the socket off which gets annoying when you are trying to work fast. I also don't like the double trigger as much.
The legends team I work with uses the snapon impacts, they are all at-least 5 years old and still kicking strong. There is also a company in concord that rebuilds the batteries. When looking at the rating on them you have to remember most do not produce the same amount of torque taking things off as they do putting them on. And often with brakes that produce a lot of heat you may torque your lugs to 75 and them be over 100 taking them off.
As far as torque wrenches if you are planning on doing anything with it other than torquing wheels i would spend a little money on it. A torque wrench is only accurate in the middle of its range so if you want one for wheels get a 150ftlb max one so that its accurate around 100.
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Oct 19, 2011 20:01:25 GMT -5
Haha, I have the cheapo HF 150 ft-lb torque wrench and use it to torque my lug nuts all the time. Love it. Wouldn't bet my life on an accurate torque value, but I bet its good to about +/- 5 ft-lbs. For what I need it for, it is perfect.
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Post by 05astock on Nov 29, 2011 20:50:10 GMT -5
Per had a "Goodyear" brand one (I think) that did a nice job. I as well had a 18v goodyear brand. it worked well. |
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Post by z3elda on Nov 29, 2011 22:07:07 GMT -5
Waitin to see what Santa brings me...
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Post by stealthgtfour on Dec 10, 2011 20:20:33 GMT -5
have a mac tools 1/2"cordless and its a very high quality unit. it is on par with snap-on price wise. im sure they can be found on the internets. also a torque wrench is a must have and a midrange one will be just as accurate as the most expensive ones. i have my craftsman ones checked every year and have never had more than 2% out of spec. but they are quite old now and i think quality has suffered on the newer ones. i am also very careful with them.
hope this helps
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Post by soloracer on Dec 10, 2011 21:27:31 GMT -5
Just a reminder on torque wrenches. Pull slow and smoothly or the reading is useless. Have seen way too many people quickly tugging on the wrench, till it clicks.
And yes ALWAYS finish with a torque wrench. As often as we change wheels, anti seize or grease (just a touch) is necessary for lug and nut life.
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Post by damnyankee on Dec 11, 2011 14:19:10 GMT -5
Just a reminder on torque wrenches. Pull slow and smoothly or the reading is useless. Have seen way too many people quickly tugging on the wrench, till it clicks. And yes ALWAYS finish with a torque wrench. As often as we change wheels, anti seize or grease (just a touch) is necessary for lug and nut life. So, are you saying a slow smooth pull, and a little bit of lube on the nuts is a GOOD thing? |
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Post by Steve Eckerich on Dec 11, 2011 15:09:08 GMT -5
Sick, but goooood.
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Post by cr89x on Dec 11, 2011 19:20:01 GMT -5
My thought too Steve.
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Post by soloracer on Dec 11, 2011 20:00:57 GMT -5
Just a reminder on torque wrenches. Pull slow and smoothly or the reading is useless. Have seen way too many people quickly tugging on the wrench, till it clicks. And yes ALWAYS finish with a torque wrench. As often as we change wheels, anti seize or grease (just a touch) is necessary for lug and nut life. So, are you saying a slow smooth pull, and a little bit of lube on the nuts is a GOOD thing? OK i now hear Eric Clapton singing "slowhand" in the background. And probably will every time i pick up my torque wrench.  |
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Post by cowboy on Dec 12, 2011 8:28:14 GMT -5
Just to add to the mix, I have an Ingersoll Rand impact gun that works like a charm. Once I started using it I wondered how I ever got by without one. Definitely find one you like and get it.
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Post by Steve Eckerich on Dec 12, 2011 13:15:14 GMT -5
Serious now, you kill me james and I will be singing that song in my head all day.
I have the Dewalt and have used it at the track for the last 3 years and love it. Had a ton of spare batteries around and found a deal at Max Tools for 2 18V XRP batteries for $85 a year ago. It will easily break loose 90# lugs all weekend. As with every impact works best with only a long socket and no extensions to soak up the hit. Have used the Goodyear and Snapon and both were just as good.
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Post by srduck on Dec 23, 2011 9:07:21 GMT -5
Just as a heads up, I picked one up at Harbor Freight last night for $110.
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Post by z3elda on Dec 23, 2011 13:11:09 GMT -5
Waitin on Santa... or maybe a couple of his helpers.. ;-)
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Post by jbyrd on Jan 4, 2012 17:05:42 GMT -5
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/BV8yfpKUnmg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Dang it...can't get the Youtube embed to work! !@#$% |
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Post by z3elda on Jan 4, 2012 19:39:15 GMT -5
<iframe width="420" height="315" src=" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Dang it...can't get the Youtube embed to work! !@#$% Cool! |
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Post by z3elda on Feb 19, 2012 8:45:44 GMT -5
Update: I bought the Longacre 1/2" Impact with 2 batteries, charger and extension from a race supplier on eBay: $240 shipped.
Used it at Zmax yesterday - performed well.
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