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Post by ball80 on Jan 30, 2013 17:04:49 GMT -5
Hey guys
I know I'm the chief of Trash talking, but I hope someone out there would open up their door to allowing me to co drive. Due to wedding cost. Things are tight. I'd be more than willing to allow a co drive for next year and one free invite to the wedding of the year!
Thanks guys
Travis
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Post by dasautochris on Jan 30, 2013 17:16:49 GMT -5
I know the GTI is no Mini, buy my doors are open, brother. Unless you get offered a cooler car.
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Post by tadpole on Jan 30, 2013 17:18:04 GMT -5
I would but I already have a co driver. Although, I am sure a nice set of ZII's could convince me, uhhh, or her otherwise. Since I have another car to drive.
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Post by ball80 on Jan 30, 2013 18:04:23 GMT -5
I'm trying to sell the zII to pay for my rehearsal dinner. Who knew the grooms parents were supposed to pay that. My parents didn't get that memo. But I'll give ya 10% off for a seat in the Stc car  |
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Post by ball80 on Jan 30, 2013 18:06:45 GMT -5
Chris. You have Automatic transmission don't ya? Also are you planning on making it to all ccr events I know you were Mia on a few last year.
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Post by dasautochris on Jan 30, 2013 18:18:08 GMT -5
Its a manual. I'm going to do as many as I can but money and time gets a bit tight with a 1 1/2 year old at home, so I really don't know how many events I'll make.
So you looking for a full ride this year?
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Post by ball80 on Jan 30, 2013 18:54:22 GMT -5
Looking for a ride till around July event. Just to get me past the wedding expense.
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Post by dasautochris on Jan 30, 2013 19:47:38 GMT -5
I thought you were just talking about zmax. You're more than welcome to drive my car for a couple events but I honestly couldnt swing the tire expense for that many events. I was hoping to make them last a couple seasons.
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Post by tadpole on Jan 30, 2013 20:39:29 GMT -5
Hmmm, I will have to think about that. I actually need to talk to Lisa since it is her car. But then I would have to drive the XP car with a way worse PAX.
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Post by ball80 on Jan 30, 2013 21:26:14 GMT -5
But your so dang good. Just gives the rest of the guys a chance to win. I think xp is for you!!!!
Lisa. We can be the champs!
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 2, 2013 21:45:30 GMT -5
ball80, I would love to drive your car |
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Post by tadpole on Feb 2, 2013 22:03:57 GMT -5
Sorry Travis, not looking good for you co-driving Lisa's car. Looks like we may not be able to afford any rubber for it yet. So we may both be in the XP car. Although, I am trying to read through all these rules and see for sure if it is an XP car. It could be an SM or a FP car? Not sure. If it is one of those, then way better PAX.
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Post by ball80 on Feb 3, 2013 9:09:06 GMT -5
ball80, I would love to drive your car Excuse me for not knowing. But who are ya? I never remember screen names. Sorry. |
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Post by ball80 on Feb 3, 2013 9:12:28 GMT -5
Sorry Travis, not looking good for you co-driving Lisa's car. Looks like we may not be able to afford any rubber for it yet. So we may both be in the XP car. Although, I am trying to read through all these rules and see for sure if it is an XP car. It could be an SM or a FP car? Not sure. If it is one of those, then way better PAX. Bro don't loose sleep on it. The fact that you ever tried to make something happen means a lot! It looks like I might have a solution to my own problem. Ill know for sure this week. My biggest issue is I have surgery Wednesday on my eye. So I hope it's (the eye) is ready to race. How big is the change in pax from xp to sm? |
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 3, 2013 16:41:20 GMT -5
ball80, I would love to drive your car Excuse me for not knowing. But who are ya? I never remember screen names. Sorry. No worries...it's been a while since I've been around. Should be a lot more active this year. I'll actually be co-driving with James Farris this year. |
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Post by tadpole on Feb 3, 2013 18:12:31 GMT -5
SM is .867 and XP is .901. So really big difference. That is around 2.5 seconds on a 60 sec course.
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Post by ball80 on Feb 3, 2013 21:12:06 GMT -5
Wow that is a big time difference. Take off the mods that bump you.
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Post by tadpole on Feb 3, 2013 22:44:45 GMT -5
I think that would involve removing the turbo. So.... No!
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Post by philip1 on Feb 3, 2013 23:35:14 GMT -5
I'd offer you a seat but I don't even have one
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Post by ball80 on Feb 4, 2013 6:09:44 GMT -5
Since when does just adding a turbo bump you all the way to xp. Andy put a supercharger/turbo (forget which one because it has a funny look to it. No offense) and he went to ssm. So what is bumping you out of there?
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Post by Frodo on Feb 4, 2013 8:31:24 GMT -5
Andy supercharged his s2k.
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Post by tadpole on Feb 4, 2013 14:03:38 GMT -5
Maybe I just can't find that I am allowed to do it. I guess I need to read it again. If I am allowed to drive that car in SM then I am doing that for sure.
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Post by tadpole on Feb 4, 2013 14:10:51 GMT -5
Basically I have an 02 wrx motor with turbo in my 2000 impreza 2.5rs. If anyone knows what class the car would be in, then let me know. I know that suspension matters too, but I think it would be legal in whatever class the motor swap would qualify for.
Josh's 6 cylinder 2.5rs is in XP, so I assumed I was probably the same.
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Feb 4, 2013 14:32:55 GMT -5
That is correct. Travis, it is a centrifugal supercharger, so it does look a lot like a turbo.
There are a few things that, if done to my car, would throw me into XP as well. I would have to read the rules to know exactly what those are. Maybe removing the passenger seat?
Edit - I know that suspension modifications are unlimited in both SM and XP, so suspension stuff wouldn't make a difference. I read something about motor swaps, but it was all very wordy and confusing (like much of the rule book).
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Post by tadpole on Feb 4, 2013 15:42:54 GMT -5
So then where is the supercharged part written in the rules? I haven't noticed anything about forced induction? I know that if I had an 04 impreza 2.5rs I could swap in an sti motor and be fine. Or even an 02 would be fine cause that is all on the GD chassis. I have the earlier GC chassis so  The problem is that the turbo motor was not made during the same model year, so I am not sure if it is legal? I have had some people tell me that it would be fine and legal, and some say that it wouldn't be? So I don't know? If it is SM legal then I think I will have to put the door cards and some other interior stuff back in, but that is no big deal. Now you guys are getting me excited that it might be SM legal. That would be the best news ever. Well, for me at least. |
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Post by philip1 on Feb 4, 2013 16:16:20 GMT -5
SM is pretty much any engine swap within the same brand with a full interior. Suspension in SM is limited to stock mounting points so tube chassis is out. You should be ok in SM.
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Post by subydude on Feb 4, 2013 16:27:45 GMT -5
Phillip is correct. Your car is SM legal assuming you don't have an ALK or other subframe brace that's not SP legal.
The reason Butterscotch is in XP is the lack of interior. Sm requires a full interior, but allows removal of the back seats, back seat belts, radio, speakers, stuff like that. Otherwise, carpet and trim need to remain.
SM allows open engines as long as they're from the same manufacturer, open transmissions (no manufacture restrictions there), open diffs, open wheels/tires, open suspension as long as it attaches to the body in the same place, open brakes, you can replace the hood/trunk, remove the sunroof, super light seats, remove the air bags, aftermarket steering wheel, replace bumper covers, flare fenders, and add aero.
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Feb 4, 2013 17:02:35 GMT -5
Sweet, so you should be good. And the Mod rules definitely touch on super/turbocharged applications. I remember the part about if it is super/turbo'd you have to add 1.4L to the effective displacement of the motor for all rules and regulations. So my car gets treated like a 3.4L now; not that it makes much of a difference as most of the rules tied to displacement concern minimum vehicle weight restrictions, and my car is a pig already.
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Post by subydude on Feb 4, 2013 17:06:31 GMT -5
Sad to say, but I know the SM rules pretty well since I've lived there for the past 6 years. If you guys have questions, come find me at the ZMax event and I can answer them. Tall, blond, scruffy guy. I'll either be there in a white STS miata or a VW of some sort.
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Post by srduck on Feb 4, 2013 17:23:24 GMT -5
Sad to say, but I know the SM rules pretty well since I've lived there for the past 6 years. If you guys have questions, come find me at the ZMax event and I can answer them. Tall, blond, scruffy guy. I'll either be there in a white STS miata or a VW of some sort. He's the guy that looks intimidating. Don't worry... he's only actually intimidating to beers and scotch! |
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