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Post by damnyankee on Jun 29, 2006 21:59:54 GMT -5
What are the requirements for helmets?
Snell 2000 or Snell 2005?
DOT?
Also, does anyone know where one can be purchased cheaply?
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Post by jbyrd on Jul 1, 2006 5:32:31 GMT -5
It's all in the rule book. DOT won't get it done. Snell M or Snell SA 1995, 2000, or 2005 is ok. Simpson World (just down the street from you) usually has a sale on something. Another good souce is www.thebellstore.com. |
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Post by damnyankee on Jul 1, 2006 20:08:58 GMT -5
Yes it is in the rule book  I believe it is section 4.3.1?  |
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Post by C4Shane on Jul 4, 2006 6:53:50 GMT -5
www.discoveryparts.com has cheep Snell 2005 helmets. But Simpson World usually has some closeouts, esp at end of year. Got a nice one a couple of years ago there at a Thanksgiving weekend sale. This is a good time to buy as a lot of folks are clearing out M/SA 2000 helmets and are cutting the prices substantially. Just depends on if you are looking for a specific brand/model, etc. or if you simply want a legal helmet. Discovery has an Ultra Race Gear M2000 helmet on closeout for 109 (full face). I prefer an open face helmet and they have one of those for 69 bucks in M2000 on closeout. You get a free helmet bag wid it too. Colin and I have one of the Ultra open face helmets as a spare (ride-alongs) and it is quite nice for the price. You can take a look at it this w/e if you like.
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Post by lagunamiata on Jul 4, 2006 7:11:58 GMT -5
Here's where mine came from - www.zamp-racing.com/closeouts.htmDoesn't look like much of a selection now... I have the J-1 open face motorcycle. Its SNELL M-2000 certified. Go to a motorcycle shop and try on a HJC. Whatever size your mellon fits in the HJC it'll be the same in the Zamp... at least from my experience. Also www.racerwholesale.com/ may have some deals on G-Force SNELL 2000 certified. The helmet rule is written for current and 2 previous cerfitications. The 2005 just came out, so you can use a 95 or 2000 as JB said. If you get a 2000 you'll get to use it until the 2015 certified helmets are released. |
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Post by C4Shane on Jul 4, 2006 7:13:46 GMT -5
The helmet rule is written for current and 2 previous cerfitications. The 2005 just came out, so you can use a 95 or 2000 as JB said. If you get a 2000 you'll get to use it until the 2015 certified helmets are released. Or until is smells so bad you use it as a flower pot... |
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Post by kuharious on Aug 28, 2006 19:45:21 GMT -5
I am new to this board. I just wanted to make sure I am looking at the right thing on the Zamp website it says it "meets or exceeds Snell and Dot". Now my question is does that mean it is certified with Snell and Dot? Thanks again.
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Post by damnyankee on Aug 28, 2006 21:15:30 GMT -5
Zamp J-1, meets the requirements. I just bought one
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Post by kuharious on Aug 29, 2006 7:00:01 GMT -5
Thanks. I will order one this week.
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Post by lagunamiata on Aug 29, 2006 19:21:11 GMT -5
A lot of the discount "made in China" SNELL certified helmets don't actually have the stickers... the Zamp does.
If I were road racing, I'd buy a Simpson or Bell (if I had the money). For AX, the Zamp is just fine.
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Post by kuharious on Aug 30, 2006 7:57:24 GMT -5
thinking I am going with the Zamp. If i keep it up and do more road courses then I might pay up for the Simpson or Bell.
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Post by lagunamiata on Aug 30, 2006 10:33:51 GMT -5
That's my plan too...
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Post by C4Shane on Sept 18, 2006 17:03:51 GMT -5
Bump for our novices who may want to read some of this before NTI
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Post by dstan on Feb 20, 2007 11:25:03 GMT -5
I just bought a used Simpson helmet from a friend
But there are no rating stickers on it.
He said it was Snell 2000 but i don't see it anywhere
good buy though
Helmet and bag $100.00
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Post by lancer360 on Feb 20, 2007 11:38:28 GMT -5
Simpson helmets are made in China too!
My personal opinion is that you should not go cheap on your helmet as you are talking about protecting that piece of grey matter between your ears!
If you want an SA rated helmet and prefer to try on helmets to make sure they fit head up to Mooresville. Impact racing (Bill Simpson's new company) has a store about a block from the Simpson store in Mooresville. There stuff is made in the USA for those wanting to support the local economy. Great quality, but not exactly cheap as there helmets are all SA rated. I got mine with a chrome visor around $400. If you have any thoughts of doing any events that are held at a track, it is best to get an SA rated helmet as many tracks do not allow "M" rated helmets.
Speaking of that with the autocross event at Lowes later on, do they require the us of "SA" rated helmets or do they let us use "M" rated since we are not on the main track?
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Post by jbyrd on Feb 20, 2007 12:01:58 GMT -5
I just bought a used Simpson helmet from a friend But there are no rating stickers on it. He said it was Snell 2000 but i don't see it anywhere good buy though Helmet and bag $100.00 Look inside the helmet and pull back the lining until you find the Snell sticker. It can be hard to see sometimes because it is a holographic design in a dark location. That label MUST be there for your helmet to be approved. Not all Simpson helmets are Snell Rated. |
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Post by jbyrd on Feb 20, 2007 12:06:24 GMT -5
Simpson helmets are made in China too! Simpson SA helmets are manufactured in New Braunfels, Texas, USA, and like my Simpson Voyager, they carry a label inside stating "Manufactured in the U.S.A." |
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Post by dstan on Feb 20, 2007 12:58:09 GMT -5
I found the Snell 2000 label
And the "Made In the USA" sticker
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Post by pistonwheels on Feb 20, 2007 13:38:18 GMT -5
The difference between the M-rated helmets and the other Snell helmets is in the liner. M-rated helmets don't (offically) have the same fire-resistant liner.
An M-rated helmet is OK for Solo-sanctioned events (and this includes the Lowe's autox), but you will need a suitable Snell rated helmet for Track events such as Club Trials.
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Post by lancer360 on Feb 20, 2007 14:18:07 GMT -5
DOH!!!  I guess that is what I get for believing a salesman! ;D Regardless, the Simpson store and the Impact Racing store are almost side by side if you want to try on different models and sizes to get the best fit. |
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Post by MattP on Feb 20, 2007 15:27:22 GMT -5
The difference between the M-rated helmets and the other Snell helmets is in the liner. M-rated helmets don't (offically) have the same fire-resistant liner. An M-rated helmet is OK for Solo-sanctioned events (and this includes the Lowe's autox), but you will need a suitable Snell rated helmet for Track events such as Club Trials. One additional difference: SA rated helmets must pass a roll bar impact test. M rated do not require this, though I have heard that most do pass the test, particularly those that have an equivalent SA rated version. |
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Post by jbyrd on Feb 20, 2007 16:14:28 GMT -5
DOH!!! I guess that is what I get for believing a salesman! ;D Regardless, the Simpson store and the Impact Racing store are almost side by side if you want to try on different models and sizes to get the best fit. Actually, I think some of the motorcycle helmets may be made in China, but the ones we use in our sport are made in Tejas. |
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Post by lagunamiata on Feb 20, 2007 21:32:52 GMT -5
but you will need a suitable Snell rated helmet for Track events such as Club Trials. Club trials require the same SNELL rating as autocross, so M, SA or K 1995 or newer are fine. |
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Post by pistonwheels on Feb 21, 2007 12:32:57 GMT -5
but you will need a suitable Snell rated helmet for Track events such as Club Trials. Club trials require the same SNELL rating as autocross, so M, SA or K 1995 or newer are fine. I was trying to be real cautious there.... 'cos it wouldn't make any sense to require a helmet that has some fire-resistant liner if the driver wasn't required to wear driving suit/shoes/gloves. But then I would have to go back and check the rules for which of the events that fall under the Rules (as we know them so far) identify that stuff..... Thanks for the clarification. |
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Post by C4Shane on Feb 21, 2007 13:31:00 GMT -5
www.scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/SoloHelmetBulletin.pdfThe above link takes you to the OFFICIAL SCCA position on helmet requirements. For SOLO, a M rated helmet (or SA) of 1995 or newer is suitable. This would include M1995/SA1995 up to M2005/SA2005. Alternate specifications can include SFI 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A and 41.2A.
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 21, 2007 21:41:06 GMT -5
www.scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/SoloHelmetBulletin.pdfThe above link takes you to the OFFICIAL SCCA position on helmet requirements. For SOLO, a M rated helmet (or SA) of 1995 or newer is suitable. This would include M1995/SA1995 up to M2005/SA2005. Alternate specifications can include SFI 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A and 41.2A. Or the new 8799 series ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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