adam
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Post by adam on Dec 13, 2006 17:43:42 GMT -5
So i have been looking to run some solo events with you folks but have a question as to what class i would run in. I searched the PDF 2006 solo rules for my car, a 1990 Saab 900 SPG and would like some clarification on the class. The rules say that a 900/900 turbo would be Street Prepared D class and a "SPG(16V&turbo)" is Street Prepared E. What is throwing me off is the E class seems to specify a 16 valve turbo engine where the D class is basicly all other 900's 8 valve NA, 16V NA and 8V and 16v turbo's depending on the year and makes it seem like my car could fit into either class. I am assuming since my car is an SPG i should run in E class but since there was some confusion i figured i would turn my questions over to the experts also this will seems like it should save time when i go to an event.
Thanks Adam
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Post by lagunamiata on Dec 13, 2006 18:17:50 GMT -5
Adam,
Some quick reading on the 'net (for what its worth) it looks like all SPGs are 16 valve turbos.
So if your car is a SPG, you're in ESP.
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adam
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Post by adam on Dec 13, 2006 19:04:12 GMT -5
Thanks, now i have a class i guess that is the first place to start, ESP it is.
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Post by C4Shane on Dec 14, 2006 10:13:52 GMT -5
Goody - Another SAAB story!!! Yeah, don't worry Adam - you will get killed either way. SAAB + Turbo + FWD even with a lot of power just doesn't seem to be the ticket in these classes. Ran mine in G-stock and it was a lot of fun to run something different. Managed a few wins, but when the Minis showed up we were dead meat!~ LOL
That will put you in with some very solid competition in our club. There are a few Camaros that run ESP - should be a fair fight on tighter courses. Have fun and I look forward to seeing your car!
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Post by pistonwheels on Dec 14, 2006 16:47:53 GMT -5
Shane, do these cars have a front anti-sway bar. Do they run better with it disconnected?
They suffer at an autox because there's so much car body behind the front wheels that inertia always seems to win control. I wondered if keeping the front "soft" allows the body to settle more on the course and lets the rear wheels do some work?
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adam
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Post by adam on Dec 14, 2006 20:48:06 GMT -5
The spg as has a front sway bar as does the turbo, basicly the same car but with a factory body kit and different wheels. You bring up an interesting point.
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Post by C4Shane on Jan 9, 2007 13:18:01 GMT -5
Sorry I have been asleep at the post and didn't reply to this earlier. I got my turbo to rotate by working with the tires. The front has a lot of suspension travel (prob not as much on an SPG as it sits lower) and these cars really aren't that stiff - Sweden has some rough roads and that is where they are at their best (should be good for rallycross). But, I would run the cheapest Kuhmo fat radials on the back I could find (400+ wear rating) and then stuffed the biggest set of Azenis I could cram on my wheels up front. I even thought about going to Hoosiers. We really got it to rotate to the point where a tap on the brakes turning in and you could just straighten the wheel up as the back end slid around. Once you were almost aimed in the right direction you just mashed the throttle.
On Adam's his will probably go pretty quickly. On my Saab 99 Turbo you could measure the turbo lag with a calendar - so timing was critical. Very challenging and fun to drive. But the key is to get these cars to oversteer...a bunch.
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