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Post by Grilleguy on Mar 15, 2006 22:54:05 GMT -5
My .02 cents if some attitudes were alittle better during the event then more people would be willing to participate / help / aks questions etc. If someone is too stressed or feels overworked then back off on some responsibilities...lifes too short and besides aren't we out there to have a good time. I caution going too high tech as this stuff gets hauled around and beat up pretty bad ansd then we just end up with more delays.
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Post by markt on Mar 16, 2006 8:24:57 GMT -5
First of all, regarding the lack of Competitor trohpies, I forgot them. Plain and simple, I saw 1st, 2nd & 3rd cases loaded in the van and didn't think about it. It won't happen again and we should have plenty at the next few events for those that didn't get theirs last Sunday.
Printed run results: We have the printer, however, for what ever reason it has not been as efficient as needed. Perhaps we need to just hook it up and see how it goes. I'll make sure it has paper before the next event.
Waiver/Site control: Unlike most SCR events we seem to be at sites that have multiple access points. BMW & the SC Fairgrounds have 1 access point to the hot areas, Knights and Intimidators are right on public roads. I'm sure we can cone ourselves some security but, we must have the Waiver Person as a worker position and make sure that person knows the rules regarding minors, in particular, if this is to work. We might need to invest in a small table to place there or just have someone in a chair(we've got several bag chairs in the van, thanks forgetful people!)
Brooms: We have 3 good brooms(I fixed the broken one) in the van(on the left with the flags as you look in from the back), take them as needed but, return them when you're done.
Mark
Van Guy
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Post by sleeper on Mar 16, 2006 9:45:09 GMT -5
Seems like the three big issues so far are waivers, run results and classing. Here are my thoughts: - Waivers - I do agree that we should try and implement an entry table to force every person to sign the waiver. This is the best and most effective way to ensure that everyone has signed it. I think a worker would rather sit at that table rather than walking around the entire site asking 100x if anyone has signed the waiver.
- Run Results - Personally, I think the PA system and timer display are enough. That's two ways of getting your results and in my book sufficient. While the SCR timeslip system is nice, it's not foolproof and at every event I've been at it has malfunctioned at some point.
- Classing - I'm very familiar with classing (pretty much memorized the rule book) and would like to volunteer to help out tech by making sure everyone is in the correct class, especially novices.
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Post by jbyrd on Mar 16, 2006 9:52:34 GMT -5
[/li][li] Classing - I'm very familiar with classing (pretty much memorized the rule book) and would like to volunteer to help out tech by making sure everyone is in the correct class, especially novices. [/list][/quote] Major Exalt!!!! |
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Post by lagunamiata on Mar 16, 2006 10:30:05 GMT -5
[/li][li] Classing - I'm very familiar with classing (pretty much memorized the rule book) and would like to volunteer to help out tech by making sure everyone is in the correct class, especially novices. [/list][/quote] Major Exalt!!!![/quote] Having a table set up near registration with a sign that says "CAR CLASSIFICATION HELP HERE" might be a good thing!! |
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Post by sleeper on Mar 16, 2006 11:01:19 GMT -5
Having a table set up near registration with a sign that says "CAR CLASSIFICATION HELP HERE" might be a good thing!! Shane Warren did that at one of last season's events but only a few took advantage of it. I think it's a better idea to have someone ensuring correct classing at tech, this way the correct class can be put on with the shoe polish. Again I will gladly volunteer to do this, since I have an annual tech and don't need to prep my car since I run street tires. Which brings another point, we also need to make sure that the car number is on the BOTH SIDE windows of the car so that timing can read them easily. |
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Post by ein86 on Mar 16, 2006 12:13:47 GMT -5
I dont really have anything to add that has not been covered.....but...... does anyone have any idea of when the results will be up?
I have no problem keeping up with my own times but it would be nice to know how I finished in the group.
edit:nevermind,they're up!!!
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Post by markt on Mar 16, 2006 12:24:20 GMT -5
Car Classing: Needs to be done prior to registration, not sure how it can be done at tech which is done AFTER registration. Perhaps a person walking up & down the registration line saying, "Bring out yer class!" while banging on a Rule Book(small homage to Monty Python(insert theme music here))
Mark
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Post by sleeper on Mar 16, 2006 13:52:48 GMT -5
Car Classing: Needs to be done prior to registration, not sure how it can be done at tech which is done AFTER registration. Perhaps a person walking up & down the registration line saying, "Bring out yer class!" while banging on a Rule Book(small homage to Monty Python(insert theme music here)) Mark CSP111 Doh! I overlooked that simple fact. I like your idea, lol, but it's usually not until tech that we can find out what's under the hood and the appropriate class. Maybe if they find out they are in the wrong class at tech they must go back and have registration change it. *shrugs* |
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Post by C4Shane on Mar 16, 2006 14:16:28 GMT -5
They can. If you get back to registration, they can mark down the correct class. (my wife will kill me when she reads this).
You can even make last minute changes at the van (great - now steven is gonna kill me...) but it is definitely NOT recommended.
Only good point is that after the first few events, it will die down quite a bit as everyone settles into the correct class (example: SS for the Lotus Elise I was dreaming about).
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Post by lagunamiata on Mar 16, 2006 14:18:34 GMT -5
Which brings another point, we also need to make sure that the car number is on the BOTH SIDE windows of the car so that timing can read them easily. We DO tell people that, but I don't have time to watch over their shoulders to make sure numbers get on both sides of the car. When there are 80 - 100 cars to tech in 1.5 hours, three of us are doing all we can to keep the line moving. It was bad enough having people leave their cars sitting to go back to registration to change car classes. |
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Post by GrilleGuycom on Mar 16, 2006 22:36:57 GMT -5
Wanted to add something a little mor constructive this time...
I think registration should be 3 people and if you pre-registered you can get in ANY LINE (preferably the shortest). 2 of these will only do preregs and the 3rd does prereg and unregistered. This makes it the easiest for the people who preregistered to get signed in FAST - hopefully the unregistered people will prereg next time. THe van will get 3 times as many sheets for prereg, but what does it matter since that info is already entered anyway.
Registration should not have to stay open nearly as long if we can also find a way to get em in and out quick. LAst week Sue sat and watched (not her fault) while Mrs. SaabStory had a huge line - quite iniefficient. The other thing is money intake. Little pouces for taking in money and making change would help. My back hurt as I could never get seated and leaning over a table to write down all this info. ON the track of money - can't we get it setup so that people who register can pay with paypal or Credit card online. I mean this is 2006, I take paypal and credit cards on my site from people who live all over the world! I like signage too - 1- CHecks payable to CCR SCCA
2 - Members $25 non-members $35
3 - HAVE DRIVERS LICENSE OUT
4 - If you must talk - do it away from the registration table (if we get faster they won't have to shut up very long)
5- SIgn the waiver
6 - Know your class before getting in line and pick a car #
Alot of gripes are heard concerning registration.
Its too bad that SCCA can't put a bar code on the membership card then we could ref a database with all the pertinent info like birthdate - license #, etc.
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Post by pistonwheels on Mar 17, 2006 9:41:08 GMT -5
Grilleguy, will you be one of the three people working registration. Just wondering because getting volunteers for positions is always the problem.
Regarding PAYPAL, the club will be instituting this for events - that decision was made at the last BoD meeting. It will be separate from myautoevents.com. The reason its separate is to avoid the surcharge myautoevents make and the delays they enforce on waiting for funds.
Just to give a little insight. Creating a PAYPAL account for the club means tracking the money that goes in and out of it. It has to be recorded in club accounts. Refunds have to be possible. All straightforward. But now remember that doing this is ANOTHER volunteer activity. If there was someone being paid for doing this, it would be a no brainer. But every time we add a feature or process, we add work to some volunteer somewhere...
Anyone with a future interest in the club Treasurer position, please let me know.....
Martin B.
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Post by prancingdawg on Mar 17, 2006 9:52:38 GMT -5
Thanks again for your guidance, Martin.  |
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Post by crash477 on Mar 18, 2006 17:41:32 GMT -5
When SCR had their event at Knights back in December, they had all access points closed, except for one entrance where they had a table set up, and before you could enter the paddock, you had to sign the waiver. It worked very well.
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Post by jbyrd on Mar 18, 2006 18:00:53 GMT -5
When SCR had their event at Knights back in December, they had all access points closed, except for one entrance where they had a table set up, and before you could enter the paddock, you had to sign the waiver. It worked very well. Dont waist your fingers typing, crash477. I tried all last week to get that point across, and explain how simple and effective that system is.....but apparently nobody wants to hear it. Howerer, I'm glad you were paying attention, and understand how well system that worked. |
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Post by tirebuyer on Mar 18, 2006 18:12:32 GMT -5
Mrs. Saabstory here - just wanted to post a few comments regarding registration from the last auto x event.
When registration opened at 8:00 am - registration was for PREREGISTERED participants only until 9:15 am. Sue and I worked two lines (divided equally by A-H; J-Z). This went smoothly.
We added a third line when we started registration for walk ups earlier than the posted time. While Sue and I continued to work the two pre-registered lines, Scott started completing the registration for the walk-ups. Scott worked on this until he needed to prep his car for competition and I moved over to the walk-up registration line and Sue took over A-Z of the preregistration line.
With over 180 competitors we had a very large number of walk ups - some of these were regular competitors, who didn't preregister. Perhaps we could shorten the times for preregistration with both lines working walk ups?? I don't really know if that will help.
Unfortunately, registration lines are somewhat of a necessary evil - if you don't want to wait in line - go work on your car - walk the course - visit the loo or something - until the lines are shorter. The work doesn't stop at registration - we have to be able to pass on changes to preregistration (yes, it does happen when drivers change cars, classes, etc.) and need to get all the walk ups information to timing & scoring.
I welcome constructive suggestions and strive to be able to make continued improvements.
Thanks for all the positive comments about concessions and the support of all who stopped by for lunch! My daughter and I had a lot of fun and were able to put $351 in the club account toward the cost of the PA system.
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Post by ROADBOY on Mar 18, 2006 18:27:45 GMT -5
Well crash477 and JB, I agree with you both. That sounds like a great idea. Its simple and would help eliminate much of the confusion when people arive.
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Post by jbyrd on Mar 18, 2006 20:23:13 GMT -5
Well crash477 and JB, I agree with you both. That sounds like a great idea. Its simple and would help eliminate much of the confusion when people arive. PLUS ( BIG PLUS)........ It would move the waivers away from the registration line....thus speeding up registration. |
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Post by soloracer on Mar 20, 2006 17:32:09 GMT -5
Well crash477 and JB, I agree with you both. That sounds like a great idea. Its simple and would help eliminate much of the confusion when people arive. PLUS ( BIG PLUS)........ It would move the waivers away from the registration line....thus speeding up registration. When would i have to get there? Am all in favor of making registration easier for all. That is, if the idea flew. Even have my own table.  James |
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Post by soloracer on Mar 20, 2006 18:13:39 GMT -5
Really wanted to discuss ideas on AX at the social. Once again was foiled by the Secret Car Club of America (scca) as there is no location posted as of 5:30 monday. Oh well.
James
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Post by markt on Mar 20, 2006 18:43:48 GMT -5
Let's try to sit down and hash this stuff out next Monday, 27th at the Social and put together a list of stuff: ideas for new workers, misc. items to aquire, etc. If there are things that need purchased we can put something together to present to the board the following week at their meeting.
I would like to think that there have been some improvements since Steven and I first discussed AutoX Management down at Laurens a few years back. When I look at our last event and think we had about as many entrants as ever, even including 24 hour events, and how few glitches there were, things went off pretty much on time, registration lines seemed shorter than the first event, sure, a few timing glitches but, how many autox's have your been to when there wasn't at least one or two. The best thing is there are more new people expressing an interest in improving CCR Autox's and that's great!
Mark
Van Guy
CSP111
PS: If you knew what the van looked like before Jason B. started the re-organization project, WHEW!, what a mess...
PPS: I'm familiar with SCR's waiver table as I've been lucky enuf to get that as my worker assignment several times, old men don't shag cones...
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Post by lagunamiata on Mar 20, 2006 19:10:40 GMT -5
Really wanted to discuss ideas on AX at the social. Once again was foiled by the Secret Car Club of America (scca) as there is no location posted as of 5:30 monday. Oh well. James Um, the social is NEXT week... ;D |
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Post by C4Shane on Mar 20, 2006 19:11:20 GMT -5
PLUS ( BIG PLUS)........ It would move the waivers away from the registration line....thus speeding up registration. When would i have to get there? Am all in favor of making registration easier for all. That is, if the idea flew. Even have my own table. James James, registration starts at 8am typically, but we were there at 730 and cars were rolling in. That would be great if you would do that - If we could get another volunteer for that activity it would keep you from being there till the drivers meeting. Once that starts, we can assign a worker to the table for each of the following sessions. |
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Post by crash477 on Mar 20, 2006 19:14:54 GMT -5
I wont be able to attend the socials, but I hope you can sort it out.
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Post by C4Shane on Mar 20, 2006 19:21:52 GMT -5
Really wanted to discuss ideas on AX at the social. Once again was foiled by the Secret Car Club of America (scca) as there is no location posted as of 5:30 monday. Oh well. James The social is still a week away - hope you weren't planning on attending tonight. keep dry LOL |
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Post by soloracer on Mar 20, 2006 20:54:54 GMT -5
 oooooooooh, next monday. Guess we did not catch that. Am a little way away from Knights, but that seems do-able. NEXT monday we can talk all about it  James
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Post by lagunamiata on Mar 20, 2006 21:03:38 GMT -5
Location is set (there's a thread under the General section). It's at the Hickory Tavern, I-77 and Harris Blvd. Closer to you than Knights for sure!
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Post by soloracer on Mar 20, 2006 21:03:43 GMT -5
;D Wow i'm so fast i'm already a week ahead of everyone else.
James.
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Post by C4Shane on Mar 20, 2006 21:05:50 GMT -5
Good - see ya there - I'll be driving the 1929 Mercedes SSK. LOL.
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oooooooooh, next monday. Guess we did not catch that. 