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Post by whitebr40 on Jul 19, 2006 13:23:31 GMT -5
I just bought a 1994 Toyota Celica GT with at 2.2L engine. I want to know what stock class the car will be in. The mods are as follows: Custom Muffler, Custom Wing, Cold Air Intake, Cross Drilled front Brake Rotors, and Adjustable Springs from OEM Hight down 4in. I think the car is lowered 2 in right now Help me out here if anyone would please.
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Post by Imprezivblue on Jul 19, 2006 14:07:20 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure you're in STS. What size wheels/tires are you running?
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Post by jbyrd on Jul 19, 2006 16:55:04 GMT -5
With those mods, you're not in stock class. The rule book is in PDF format at www.scca.com. Follow the Solo Links. General car classifications for stock and Street Prepared classes can be found at moutons.org/sccasolo/. Your CAI and Wing (at least) put you in Street Prepared category. The brakes and springs probably do, as well. This website should tell you which SP class if you click on the Street Prepared link.
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Post by Imprezivblue on Jul 19, 2006 17:24:25 GMT -5
With those mods, you're not in stock class. The rule book is in PDF format at www.scca.com. Follow the Solo Links. General car classifications for stock and Street Prepared classes can be found at moutons.org/sccasolo/. Your CAI and Wing (at least) put you in Street Prepared category. The brakes and springs probably do, as well. This website should tell you which SP class if you click on the Street Prepared link. CAI and wings are allowed in ST classes. That was the whole intent of the class to allow the "tuner/riceboys" a place to play and be competitive. Whitebr40, i'm one of those "ricegirls" (kinda), so i'm not poking fun at you. . .
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Post by jbyrd on Jul 19, 2006 18:49:17 GMT -5
It was intended to be an addendum to what you said, Tara.
Point is...to his original question there is no stock class for his car.
Ether SP or ST.
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Post by Imprezivblue on Jul 19, 2006 18:56:13 GMT -5
It was intended to be an addendum to what you said, Tara. Point is...to his original question there is no stock class for his car. Ether SP or ST. Sorry, I misinterpreted.
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Post by fluid1 on Jul 21, 2006 13:46:32 GMT -5
It's lowered 4 inches? Shocks are probably blown, and undercarriage should be scraping the ground.
The only mods allowed in stock classes are:
Front sway bar Cat-back exhaust Rims that are the same size as stock and +-6mm offset any DOT tire
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Post by markt on Jul 21, 2006 14:20:03 GMT -5
It's lowered 4 inches? Shocks are probably blown, and undercarriage should be scraping the ground. The only mods allowed in stock classes are: Front sway bar Cat-back exhaust Rims that are the same size as stock and +-6mm offset any DOT tire adjustable shox okie dokie too so long as they don't change the ride height...
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Post by xeric13x on Jul 22, 2006 18:11:58 GMT -5
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Post by clint on Jul 22, 2006 19:53:41 GMT -5
It is a neatly organized chart, yes. It doesn't cover everything of course, and is geared toward the "street" classes' mods, leaving out any reference to Prepared or Modified (though cars don't have to be street legal in Street Prepared, ironically). I don't know why they have a "no" for Street Mod for the "Is your engine still emissions legal?" question, because I'm fairly certain they need to be for that class (see 16.A., at top of page 95 of '06 Solo Rules, especially the word "streetable").
Certain changes have been made to especially the SP rules for '06 that the chart is wrong on. Some "software", or electronic, changes to boost level on already boosted cars are now allowed (see 15.10 4. f], on page 89).
I think the "Change Spring Rates?" question should be "Change Springs?" period, because I can easily envision some as interpreting that as "springs from another 'trim level' of the 'same' car are OK for stock class", when they are not.
For the 'internal engine mods' and 'engine swap' questions, they have a "yes" for Street Prepared, but those are very, very limited by the Street Prep rules (pages 79 to 93). It ain't 'anything goes' by far...
Another question they should have, because it's a fairly common "tuner" thing to do, is "Any body panels replaced by carbon fiber pieces??" Then there would be a "No" in every column, except Street Mod... These aren't all of the issues with the chart, I'm sure...
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Post by Bryan on Jul 23, 2006 10:24:43 GMT -5
I have only raced in two events third is going to be in orangeburg If I can attend. Orangeburg will be the first time I race this car. I left a couple of mods out so let me just go over them again. It has cross drilled front rotors, custom pedals, custom wing, cold air intake, adjustable ground control coil over springs, they are set 2in lower than OEM hight. the rims are the same size as OEM 15x7 cooper zeon 205-50-r15. from what I have found out I think that sts or fsp will be the class I run in. Thanx for the help and I the stuff I just listed changes anything just let me know.
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Post by Imprezivblue on Jul 24, 2006 7:56:29 GMT -5
I have only raced in two events third is going to be in orangeburg If I can attend. Orangeburg will be the first time I race this car. I left a couple of mods out so let me just go over them again. It has cross drilled front rotors, custom pedals, custom wing, cold air intake, adjustable ground control coil over springs, they are set 2in lower than OEM hight. the rims are the same size as OEM 15x7 cooper zeon 205-50-r15. from what I have found out I think that sts or fsp will be the class I run in. Thanx for the help and I the stuff I just listed changes anything just let me know. Just an FYI, you're probably better off competiting in STS because everyone else in your class will also be running on street tires. In FSP, you compete against others on RComps and well, they say that accounts for ~2 seconds on a 60 second course difference. Choose wisely.
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Post by fluid1 on Jul 24, 2006 14:59:46 GMT -5
It's lowered 4 inches? Shocks are probably blown, and undercarriage should be scraping the ground. The only mods allowed in stock classes are: Front sway bar Cat-back exhaust Rims that are the same size as stock and +-6mm offset any DOT tire adjustable shox okie dokie too so long as they don't change the ride height... Oh yeah. I don't know where my head is!!!! Maybe because I don't have shocks yet, too ;D
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Post by clint on Jul 25, 2006 19:50:39 GMT -5
I left a couple of mods out so let me just go over them again. It has cross drilled front rotors, custom pedals, custom wing, cold air intake, adjustable ground control coil over springs, they are set 2in lower than OEM hight. the rims are the same size as OEM 15x7 cooper zeon 205-50-r15. from what I have found out I think that sts or fsp will be the class I run in. Thanx for the help and I the stuff I just listed changes anything just let me know. It still sounds like you should be fine for STS as most everyone has said. I run in STS here in CCR and have the exact same wheel & tire sizes. They can be larger than stock in STS, as long as wheels are no more than 7.5 inches wide, and tires aren't more than 225mm. I also have Ground Controls set 2 inches down, just like you. The only thing I can see that would boot you out of STS, would be if your cross-drilled rotors are larger than stock diameter, i.e. a "big brake" kit. Even then, you should simply move up to STX, rather than FSP (re-read Tara's comments about R compound tires in Street Prepared classes ), because STX requires everyone to have street tires, too. Edit: Doch, I just remembered: if you got a big brake kit, you'd have to go to STX anyway, because larger rotors aren't allowed in Street Prepared, either!
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Post by fluid1 on Jul 25, 2006 20:38:14 GMT -5
I would highly doubt they are big brakes.
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