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Post by westernauto17 on Nov 14, 2006 12:52:33 GMT -5
Is there a technical section on this board or all you guys too competitive to share secrets?
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Post by lagunamiata on Nov 14, 2006 13:03:32 GMT -5
There isn't one... we usually just ask questions in the appropriate forum... SOLO questions here, road race in the road race section, etc.
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Post by bogner47 on Nov 14, 2006 13:09:31 GMT -5
The only secret I keep is how I keep my youthful, radiant glow!
Oh right, loose living and the stress that comes with marriage!
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Post by C4Shane on Nov 14, 2006 17:58:39 GMT -5
Only secret I keep is how to get a paint job as low gloss as the Fiestada's!
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Post by C4Shane on Nov 14, 2006 17:59:19 GMT -5
Or.... I guess we could just ask - Whatcha wanna know...we like to talk about cars and such....
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Post by markt on Nov 14, 2006 18:37:14 GMT -5
OK, you'll need a roll of WD40 and a can of duct tape...any questions?...where'd I leave my beer?...
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Post by soloracer on Nov 14, 2006 18:54:29 GMT -5
THIS is gonna work well.  |
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Post by C4Shane on Nov 14, 2006 22:25:32 GMT -5
Yup.... helpful iz us, ain't we.....but shucks, we trade tires, a-arms, everything but beer....what more do ya want!
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Post by prancingdawg on Nov 14, 2006 23:07:40 GMT -5
Only secret I keep is how to get a paint job as low gloss as the Fiestada's! I can help wid dat gloss issue... shellac in a can! |
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Post by damnyankee on Nov 15, 2006 0:32:25 GMT -5
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Post by C4Shane on Nov 15, 2006 6:43:51 GMT -5
Go ahead...that's what this thread is called...you can discuss stuff like, um...how to get the rabbits outa the rabbit farms racing Mercur...or I could help wid discussion on how rust is an appropriate structural material....
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Post by pistonwheels on Nov 15, 2006 16:51:37 GMT -5
The replies that have been posted here highlight the reason why we don't have a specific Tech section.
If you ask a question on any technical subject, you will be sure to get several answers. While they may be very technical, none of them may directly relate to the question.
Some may be anatomically impossible for any human who has not been placed inside a Miata with a full roll-cage and run at race speeds.
Some may require deployment of air-bags intravenously.
A few may have been outlawed by a Republican Senate, but may now have a possibility of functioning.
And the final answer will be to join the CCR Board of Directors.
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Post by soloracer on Nov 15, 2006 23:23:03 GMT -5
The replies that have been posted here highlight the reason why we don't have a specific Tech section. If you ask a question on any technical subject, you will be sure to get several answers. While they may be very technical, none of them may directly relate to the question. Some may be anatomically impossible for any human who has not been placed inside a Miata with a full roll-cage and run at race speeds. Some may require deployment of air-bags intravenously. A few may have been outlawed by a Republican Senate, but may now have a possibility of functioning. And the final answer will be to join the CCR Board of Directors. 'Et tu brute' And one cannot just "join the board", so vote for james (his Occams' Scalpel is SHARP") I promise my best to represent the solo community. This ad is approved by, me, James Farris. |
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Post by bogner47 on Nov 16, 2006 9:36:15 GMT -5
Nice use of Occam!
"Good afternoon, this is Dell technical support, how can I help you?" (You'll have to imagine the heavy accent)
"Yeah, my computer won't turn on"
"Is it plugged in??"
"Gee, it wasn't, thanks so much for your help!"
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Post by MrsVlad on Nov 16, 2006 9:38:57 GMT -5
OK, you'll need a roll of WD40 and a can of duct tape...any questions?...where'd I leave my beer?... Don't forget to rotate the air in your tires. You must change the fluid in your turn signals before next season, . .. I'll have another cosmo please. I do not rake leaves, I run 'em over with a lawn mower. More fun. |
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Post by prancingdawg on Nov 16, 2006 11:25:05 GMT -5
The replies that have been posted here highlight the reason why we don't have a specific Tech section. If you ask a question on any technical subject, you will be sure to get several answers. While they may be very technical, none of them may directly relate to the question. Some may be anatomically impossible for any human who has not been placed inside a Miata with a full roll-cage and run at race speeds. Some may require deployment of air-bags intravenously. A few may have been outlawed by a Republican Senate, but may now have a possibility of functioning. And the final answer will be to join the CCR Board of Directors. Well said, lucas-breath... ;D |
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Post by C4Shane on Nov 16, 2006 12:52:20 GMT -5
I guess that just about covers the depth of our teknickal advice, duzn't it.....
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Post by pistonwheels on Nov 16, 2006 13:46:18 GMT -5
Nice use of Occam! "Good afternoon, this is Dell technical support, how can I help you?" (You'll have to imagine the heavy accent) "Yeah, my computer won't turn on" "Is it plugged in??" "Gee, it wasn't, thanks so much for your help!" There's a well known story of a company where a person called the technical department to complain that their PC had stopped working. The caller explained that it had just died. The tech support person asked a couple of general questions and then asked the caller for the Serial Number on the machine. The caller said he couldn't give it. When asked by the Tech guy why not, he said he couldn't read it because they had a power-cut and all the lights were out and it was too dark to see.... |
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Post by damnyankee on Nov 16, 2006 23:10:00 GMT -5
The replies that have been posted here highlight the reason why we don't have a specific Tech section. If you ask a question on any technical subject, you will be sure to get several answers. While they may be very technical, none of them may directly relate to the question. Some may be anatomically impossible for any human who has not been placed inside a Miata with a full roll-cage and run at race speeds. Some may require deployment of air-bags intravenously. A few may have been outlawed by a Republican Senate, but may now have a possibility of functioning. And the final answer will be to join the CCR Board of Directors. Well said, lucas-breath... ;D I disagree with both of you. A Tech section could bring a lot of information for newbs. Or are you against helping the novices? Sure there are/and will be a lot of smart a$$ remarks initially, because we are a bunch of smart a$$es!! But I think in the long run that will calm down and good information will be gleaned. Too often in volunteer organizations, the answer given to new members is "that's the way we've always done it" kills the enthusiam of the new members, making them "wall flowers". The novice area is a good area, and yes, there are smart a$$ remarks. You can't stop that. But looking at that section, there is good information there!! I think to dispell the notion of a "Tech" section inhibits the novice and semi-novice competitors ambitions to learn from current members, and forces them (us) to look elsewhere for information. This in itself, is counter productive to this forum. I thought we were trying to increase the usage of this forum? Why limit the information that's available? Why would we NOT want to help fellow competitors? We do this at every event!!! I think this forum is lacking a lot of things, and this is just one of them. (gets off soap box) |
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Post by prancingdawg on Nov 17, 2006 8:43:05 GMT -5
You went off your meds again, right?  Seriously, I agree, and think a real tech section is a grand idea. And If initiated, I wood refrain from my own smartax remarks in that forum. Or at least limit them greatly. After all, I'm technically, as well as follicle-ly, challenged. Pdawg  |
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Post by westernauto17 on Nov 17, 2006 10:06:48 GMT -5
Wow, I've been on this forum a little over aweek and already causing a stir. However, I second the notion of a technical board.
How about "how to get an old oval car to be a little more ambidextrious" for a first topic?
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Post by bogner47 on Nov 17, 2006 10:24:01 GMT -5
Oooh, I can suggest something there-- try evening out the suspension a little left-right, as I imagine you may have had some 'inequities' in l-r spring and damping rates!
(Derek knows very little about circle driving)
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Post by lagunamiata on Nov 17, 2006 11:57:05 GMT -5
I'm in favor of a tech section too... Put one under the SOLO section and one under the Club Racing section.
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Post by westernauto17 on Nov 17, 2006 12:39:55 GMT -5
Alright, let me know what you think --
The car is an old dirt street stock race car - '85 Monte Carlo, about 2800 pounds, with weight jacks (which adjust ride height and weight distribution) on all four corners. The enigine is shifted back about 4 inches and the driver seat is mounted where the back seat was waaaay back in '85.
I'm thinking that the ride height should be as low as possible with stiff (around 2-300 in the rear and 12-1300 in the front) springs. On the shocks, I'm kinda lost. Seems to me that low compression/hi rebound would be the ticket on both the front and rear. That way it will transfer weight quickly to front entering the corner and to the rear on exit.
Also I probably should put a big sway bar back on, put a little negative camber in each front wheel and ditch the locked rear differential (seems to me it might snap an axle on the pavement).
Any thoughts? I guess the question is if you street guys could easily adjust your spring/shock rates and ride heights, what would you do?
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Post by jbyrd on Nov 17, 2006 13:13:14 GMT -5
I'd like the tech section, but I'd rather see the results updated first.
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Post by markt on Nov 17, 2006 14:20:20 GMT -5
Several things:
1. It's better to be a smarta$$ than a dumba$$
2. "Put one under the SOLO section and one under the Club Racing section." ? What about TT? Perhaps a TECH heading with 3 sections, SOLO, TT, Club?
3. It could be self supporting much like Miata net(and I a$$ume Suby) tech threads. Ask a question, let the replies fly with the disclaimer that you take advice at your own risk.
just some misc. ramblings
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Post by tirewarmer on Nov 17, 2006 15:50:31 GMT -5
Is there a technical section on this board or all you guys too competitive to share secrets? 1. Buy a MINI. 2. Drive really fast until you see a cone. 3. Turn around aforementioned cone. 4. Repeat until through the finish. 5. Stop 6. Get trophy. |
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Post by soloracer on Nov 17, 2006 17:39:01 GMT -5
Alright, let me know what you think -- The car is an old dirt street stock race car - '85 Monte Carlo, about 2800 pounds, with weight jacks (which adjust ride height and weight distribution) on all four corners. The enigine is shifted back about 4 inches and the driver seat is mounted where the back seat was waaaay back in '85. I'm thinking that the ride height should be as low as possible with stiff (around 2-300 in the rear and 12-1300 in the front) springs. On the shocks, I'm kinda lost. Seems to me that low compression/hi rebound would be the ticket on both the front and rear. That way it will transfer weight quickly to front entering the corner and to the rear on exit. Also I probably should put a big sway bar back on, put a little negative camber in each front wheel and ditch the locked rear differential (seems to me it might snap an axle on the pavement). Any thoughts? I guess the question is if you street guys could easily adjust your spring/shock rates and ride heights, what would you do? Yep Jack it down. Square your corner weights.(we turn L.&R.) Rear spring weights sound o.k. Front seems WAY too heavy for solo. Good heavy front bar. Not so much in the back. Lose the locked rear ,it will never turn sharp or let you back on the power soon enuff.Coupla degrees front camber is good. Think 3/16 toe out front. Lotsa air front. Not so much at rear. Make Sure rear end is straight in car. Just my thoughts. Gotta think on the shox. James |
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Post by soloracer on Nov 17, 2006 17:44:14 GMT -5
Still thinking.......... Would go with about 450- 600 front. If you use spring rubbers, tighten it up with them. start stiff and work down till it stops pushing.
Caution: just my take on it.
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Post by westernauto17 on Nov 29, 2006 10:18:27 GMT -5
From my perspective, those front rates are crazy soft. I think thats even softer than stock.
What is the thinking on fronts that soft?
Also, whats "lots" of air? In my passed life, we ran front air pressures around 13 psi. To me, 20 is "lots", what say ye?
One more question - am I correct in thinking that all weight (fuel cell, battery, ect) should be as low as possible?
I think we're just going to square it up and see what it does. This should be fun, can't wait for spring.
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