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Post by sleeper on Feb 12, 2007 20:51:08 GMT -5
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Post by sleeper on Feb 12, 2007 20:51:50 GMT -5
Here are the proposed CCR Team Autocross Rules, which are based (but not identical) to the NCR Rules.
Please provide some feedback and comments!
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Post by sleeper on Feb 13, 2007 16:21:10 GMT -5
No comments? So everyone is ok with the rules as stated above?
Also, anyone feel free to start a thread to start organizing your prospective team, I will start doing that for Team Nissan.
Remember, there are no restrictions on who is on your team, you can base it on manufacturer, car color, all left handed people, it doesn't matter. Above all, let's keep things FUN!
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Post by VpointVick on Feb 13, 2007 19:28:07 GMT -5
I thought about starting a team "Tire Class", but then I realized that we would get screwed!  |
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Post by 7thson on Feb 13, 2007 22:42:49 GMT -5
Remember, there are no restrictions on who is on your team, you can base it on manufacturer, car color, all left handed people, it doesn't matter. Above all, let's keep things FUN! Okay, so I'm looking to start a team based on either "visible exterior rust" or "blue tape numbers". Perhaps both would be required... |
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Post by C4Shane on Feb 13, 2007 22:53:42 GMT -5
I would qualify for visible external rust...and internal...and between internal and external....in fact the Fiesta is mostly paint....very thick paint.
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 19, 2007 23:14:10 GMT -5
***CCR Team Autocross Rules***Scoring1. Only one driver per class can score for a team. 2. Event scoring will be based on the top 5 PAX times for 5 different classes, all other times do not count. 3. Teams represented by fewer than 5 different classes will automatically rank lower than all teams with 5 different classes. 4. If no team is represented by 5 different classes then the next highest number of classes represented will determine the winner. 5. The season team champion will be determined by the cumulative CCR points system based on how teams finish at each event. How are points awarded? I understand it is #5 above, but I don't understand the point values. Please explain... |
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Post by autoxdad on Feb 19, 2007 23:22:06 GMT -5
***CCR Team Autocross Rules***Scoring1. Only one driver per class can score for a team. 2. Event scoring will be based on the top 5 PAX times for 5 different classes, all other times do not count. 3. Teams represented by fewer than 5 different classes will automatically rank lower than all teams with 5 different classes. 4. If no team is represented by 5 different classes then the next highest number of classes represented will determine the winner. 5. The season team champion will be determined by the cumulative CCR points system based on how teams finish at each event. How are points awarded? I understand it is #5 above, but I don't understand the point values. Please explain... I am confused also, why using pax times if we are using classes, why not just go in order of the winner of each class and on down, If Nissan wins a class then they get the highest number of points. If we are using pax times then why mess with classes? |
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Post by Sisko99 on Feb 19, 2007 23:31:51 GMT -5
Makes sense to me.
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Post by sleeper on Feb 19, 2007 23:33:11 GMT -5
I am confused also, why using pax times if we are using classes, why not just go in order of the winner of each class and on down, If Nissan wins a class then they get the highest number of points. If we are using pax times then why mess with classes? If we use the winner of each class and on down, then drivers who are in a one driver class automatically get first place points. So a team made up of one driver classes will almost assuredly win because of this inherent advantage. The only fair way to do it is to utilize PAX times. The top five pax times from drivers in five different classes. This is to prevent five Miata drivers in CSP to start a team for example. To answer Ken's question, at each event, all teams will be ranked by combining the top five pax times from five different classes. The team with the lowest combined pax time will get 9 points, the second lowest gets 6 points, the third lowest gets 4 points, etc. At the end of the season the team with the most cumulative points gets the trophy, just like individual season champs are determined. I hope that clears it up and of course anyone can suggest alternatives. |
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Post by fluid1 on Feb 20, 2007 12:57:30 GMT -5
Everyone competing in the Team competition gets a free Sunday night pass to Scorpios.
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Post by sleeper on Feb 20, 2007 13:00:48 GMT -5
Everyone competing in the Team competition gets a free Sunday night pass to Scorpios. Ugh no thanks. You can have my pass since you're a regular there anyway. |
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Post by silversurfer on Feb 20, 2007 13:59:02 GMT -5
Everyone competing in the Team competition gets a free Sunday night pass to Scorpios. How much fluffing did you have to do to get all those free passes there Tony?  |
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Post by lancer360 on Feb 20, 2007 18:17:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind joining a team if somebody doesn't mind a novice driver in a British car. ;D
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 20, 2007 18:35:29 GMT -5
I am confused also, why using pax times if we are using classes, why not just go in order of the winner of each class and on down, If Nissan wins a class then they get the highest number of points. If we are using pax times then why mess with classes? If we use the winner of each class and on down, then drivers who are in a one driver class automatically get first place points. So a team made up of one driver classes will almost assuredly win because of this inherent advantage. The only fair way to do it is to utilize PAX times. The top five pax times from drivers in five different classes. This is to prevent five Miata drivers in CSP to start a team for example. To answer Ken's question, at each event, all teams will be ranked by combining the top five pax times from five different classes. The team with the lowest combined pax time will get 9 points, the second lowest gets 6 points, the third lowest gets 4 points, etc. At the end of the season the team with the most cumulative points gets the trophy, just like individual season champs are determined. I hope that clears it up and of course anyone can suggest alternatives. I think it clears it up.  |
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Post by sleeper on Feb 20, 2007 19:04:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind joining a team if somebody doesn't mind a novice driver in a British car. ;D I think some people are stuck on the fact that teams have to be from one manufacturer. This is definitely NOT a requirement. We need to get the word out that a team can be composed of ANY driver and ANY car. So lancer360, if you can recruit others, regardless of car type, to form a team, you should do so. |
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Post by lancer360 on Feb 20, 2007 20:01:58 GMT -5
Problem is I just joined so I don't know enough people to form a team, but if anybody is looking for another member I willing.
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Post by sleeper on Feb 20, 2007 21:53:51 GMT -5
Why not start a thread called "Team Europe", I know we have plenty of drivers with British and German cars that might want to join a team.
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Post by trdriver on Feb 20, 2007 23:13:32 GMT -5
Why not start a thread called "Team Europe", I know we have plenty of drivers with British and German cars that might want to join a team. hmmm ... I was going to suggest "Team Limey" for British cars - but I guess this will work fine since the Germans own a bunch of the old British car companies anyway. (Largest British car maker still owned by the British is Morgan) Newer Minis will will be perfect for this team since they are an old British car company now owned by Dark Lords of The Blue Propeller. Cheers, Jack Mc |
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Post by mattwrx on Feb 23, 2007 11:33:10 GMT -5
So... what are the rules for a single driver in multiple cars/classes? *cough*Shane*cough* Should the class of each driver matter from event to event? I would think that as long as the team still meets the 5 class requirement, it should be fine.... right? |
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Post by sleeper on Feb 23, 2007 12:05:08 GMT -5
Yup, you're fine, as long as you meet the 5 driver/5 different classes at each event.
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Post by sleeper on Feb 23, 2007 23:09:47 GMT -5
Since the recently announced Continental Tire event at CMP in Kershaw on April 7th is not a CCR points event, I am going to propose that it not be counted toward the Team Competition points. Attendance probably won't be as high as the other events so logistically it may not even work.
Please provide comments/feedback on this guys.
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Post by autoxdad on Feb 23, 2007 23:39:11 GMT -5
Since the recently announced Continental Tire event at CMP in Kershaw on April 7th is not a CCR points event, I am going to propose that it not be counted toward the Team Competition points. Attendance probably won't be as high as the other events so logistically it may not even work. Please provide comments/feedback on this guys. I think that this is a good idea, it definitly will not be a points event for us |
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Post by damnyankee on Feb 24, 2007 15:33:02 GMT -5
Agreed Steven.
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Post by Warp3 on Feb 24, 2007 21:27:15 GMT -5
Yup, you're fine, as long as you meet the 5 driver/5 different classes at each event. Since I don't think any Subarus are even eligible for either STS2 or CSP, I'm quite sure I'll still be in a unique class from the other team members.  Since the recently announced Continental Tire event at CMP in Kershaw on April 7th is not a CCR points event, I am going to propose that it not be counted toward the Team Competition points. Agreed. I'll most likely only be running the Track Trials portion that weekend anyway. |
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Post by lancer360 on Feb 24, 2007 21:35:24 GMT -5
This works for us. I plan on doing CMP, but with the track/clubtrials there may some conflicts.
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Post by C4Shane on Mar 3, 2007 22:11:01 GMT -5
Ahhh...We're Team BEER....we don't need no stinkin rules....
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Post by prancingdawg on Mar 8, 2007 22:41:57 GMT -5
I don't see nuttin' in da rules about smack talking, so I'm gonna smack ole JB from here and run...  |
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Post by sleeper on Mar 29, 2007 19:41:48 GMT -5
Every team is allowed a maximum of 12 members due to popular demand. If you disagree with this rule change please reply to this thread.
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Post by C4Shane on Mar 29, 2007 20:10:42 GMT -5
Team Beer needs 12 drivers...well...car owners...so that we have 5 that are capable of competing...LOL..
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