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Post by ccytrader on May 16, 2008 11:53:45 GMT -5
So I am putting this poll in the Novice section but would like to see everyone including seasoned veterans give their input. I think the results will surprise some and give them new life/direction on their car prep in the near future.
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Post by 1993civicsi on May 17, 2008 11:02:57 GMT -5
Great idea! I'm glad to see the results are leaning heavily toward seat time (etc.), rather than car mods.
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Post by xeric13x on May 17, 2008 12:07:53 GMT -5
this is my 3rd year doing this, 2nd full year...and from the few years i've done this, i think i figured out to take to the worst car on the worst tires u can find and if u can do good in that, then u should be good in a good car w/ good tires....in theory
good equipment just helps hide mistakes and weaknesses
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Post by ccytrader on May 19, 2008 7:13:51 GMT -5
Well so far everything is almost right inline with what I was expecting. Todd I agree its great to see that folks are leaning towards the 'correct' answers and not rushing out to buy performance parts right away. And the craziest part of all here is that the most popular answer so far is FREE. Then one of the other top answers is dirt cheap in starting a note book to log testing ideas.
I think maybe there could be some clarification on this statement. There really are two different sides of 'good equipment' to look at. One side is the car side, what is being done to upgrade the car itself. The other is what I would call the 'data acquisition' side. Not referring to an actual data logger here, but other things that help in obtaining info about your setup. Things like the quality air gauge. If your gauge is off by 5psi, its causing mistakes. This by the way is one of the most common issues I bet especially after seeing the differences between two of our gauges. Then other things like a video camera. What amazes me is most people are putting the camera in the car and pointing it outward towards the course. Why not put that camera right on the driver and forget the course itself? Then you could see body position in the seat, where you are looking, how your hand work is on the wheel, and so on.
At any rate its good to see folks making some votes to provide input, please keep it coming. There are going to be multiple installments to this to follow the progression of learning not only to drive better but setup a car better too.
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Post by fluid1 on May 19, 2008 15:12:37 GMT -5
Alignment, mentor, rule book.
Not in that order.....
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Post by xeric13x on May 19, 2008 17:04:25 GMT -5
I think maybe there could be some clarification on this statement. There really are two different sides of 'good equipment' to look at. One side is the car side, what is being done to upgrade the car itself. The other is what I would call the 'data acquisition' side. Not referring to an actual data logger here, but other things that help in obtaining info about your setup. Things like the quality air gauge. If your gauge is off by 5psi, its causing mistakes. This by the way is one of the most common issues I bet especially after seeing the differences between two of our gauges. Then other things like a video camera. What amazes me is most people are putting the camera in the car and pointing it outward towards the course. Why not put that camera right on the driver and forget the course itself? Then you could see body position in the seat, where you are looking, how your hand work is on the wheel, and so on. At any rate its good to see folks making some votes to provide input, please keep it coming. There are going to be multiple installments to this to follow the progression of learning not only to drive better but setup a car better too. Maybe I should have been more specific. The comment was leaning more towards car & mods to the car. If u learn in a really well set-up car or even a just a good car; its a question of is it the car or driver or somewhere in between? Think about Jon's performance in the "Chevy Citation GT" at the 24 hour last year. The car sux, but he's good and got crazy fast times. He didnt finish first or near first, but did amazing for the car. I totally agree on having good tools...air gauge, data book, camera. |
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Post by ccytrader on May 20, 2008 9:35:02 GMT -5
Eric I was with you on your statement and understood where you were going with the comments. Just wanted to make sure it was somewhat clear cut.
Jon's performance in the rental Kia was certainly a good showing. It should be noted that where ever that Kia is now in the land of rentals, its probably one of the better prepared, unknown HS cars around. There was a great deal of work put into the car with alignment setups and so on.
I think the biggest thing that is being shown via the poll is that folks are best off finding a mentor first. This mentor does not even need to be in the same type of car or class.
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