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Post by srduck on Feb 21, 2012 18:49:56 GMT -5
While in the passenger seat I noticed what they were doing compared to me, and how aggressive they were and I wasn't. And as I re-aligned my spine in the passenger seat from the G-forces they created, all I could think of was ... the car can do that, and that and oh yeah that too. Yup... verbal coaching can only do so much. It's amazing how much more you can learn simply by watching someone do it. Let instructors drive your car... multiple times if possible. At future events, when they're asking for a car to co-drive (I'm speaking of Casino, here.. just so we're clear), let them co-drive yours. Take in EVERYTHING that they're doing. Don't JUST watch their line and where they're going. One run watch their head and their hands as they look ahead and their steering inputs. Another run, watch their feet and those inputs... whether they ease into the throttle or are less subtle with it. |
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Post by drum3 on Feb 21, 2012 19:32:59 GMT -5
Looks like you guys have plenty of instructors at the moment , if you need more just let me know and Suzanne and I can come help .
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Post by z3elda on Feb 21, 2012 19:41:42 GMT -5
Looks like you guys have plenty of instructors at the moment , if you need more just let me know and Suzanne and I can come help . Oh we can talk about it all day long - we just can't do it :-) Please register as an Instructor Anthony! |
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Post by cr89x on Feb 22, 2012 6:30:38 GMT -5
Anthony, we would enjoy having you two.
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Post by DaGou on Feb 22, 2012 22:03:19 GMT -5
Zmax was first shot at autox and I loved it. Only been wanting to do it for the last 30 years. Yes I am signing up for the novice class, what a great opportunity. A few words on the first event. First everyone was so helpful friendly. Several folks really took a chunk out of their day to help me out, to talk to me, to calm the first day jitters. Thanks to you all who helped the shinny blue S2000! Second was the driving. Look ahead, there was not one person that i talked to that did not tell me that! The whole driving experience was just too fast, blurrrrrrrrrr of cones and turns and squeals, sometimes me sometimes my tires, and i am going sideways and now I am sideways the other way and now it is over. How in the world do you tell if you need to adjust your left rear tire, add a click of dampening to a shock, or add a degree of camber? Does time some how slow as you become one with your car? How can you guys process all this in 70 seconds?
But again thanks everyone, hope to see you all soon.
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Post by z3elda on Feb 22, 2012 22:12:42 GMT -5
Zmax was first shot at autox and I loved it. Only been wanting to do it for the last 30 years. Yes I am signing up for the novice class, what a great opportunity. A few words on the first event. First everyone was so helpful friendly. Several folks really took a chunk out of their day to help me out, to talk to me, to calm the first day jitters. Thanks to you all who helped the shinny blue S2000! Second was the driving. Look ahead, there was not one person that i talked to that did not tell me that! The whole driving experience was just too fast, blurrrrrrrrrr of cones and turns and squeals, sometimes me sometimes my tires, and i am going sideways and now I am sideways the other way and now it is over. How in the world do you tell if you need to adjust your left rear tire, add a click of dampening to a shock, or add a degree of camber? Does time some how slow as you become one with your car? How can you guys process all this in 70 seconds? But again thanks everyone, hope to see you all soon. We hooked another one! It all comes with seat-time and constant interaction with your fellow autocrossers.. Pretty much, ALL of us are still learning, we're just at different places on the curve. See you at Metrolina! |
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Post by soloracer on Feb 22, 2012 22:29:15 GMT -5
DaGou, that is the first rush. Great fun, huh? SCCA is full of great people, that may be as important as the runs.
Believe it or not, this becomes even better. As your skills add up, you will see the course slow down. Then one day (the only Way to describe it) the cones will flow by you. As you go from turn to turn you will feel like time has slowed to a gently flowing stream, all the time in the world to place the car. Like clouds drifting by, you float among them. When you see this feeling of calm, you know you have accomplished a great run. The thrill is diffrent from the "RUSH" but feels just as good.
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Post by yellow CR on Feb 22, 2012 22:33:49 GMT -5
Dagou
Glad you had fun at your first autocross, and I hope to see you regularly put your S2000 to the test. It's an amazing car and loads of fun to drive.
As far as any help, we have almost a million S2000's in the club, and all of them willing to give you some time and hopefully answer any questions you might have. I have the cool yellow one with the boyracer wing, so if you have any questions I will be happy to help.
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Feb 22, 2012 22:35:55 GMT -5
DaGou its time to get your wife out there in the Fit for the novice school too! She told me that you say she drives crazy; time for her to prove it! Good meeting you both out there, looking forward to seeing you at Metrolina.
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Post by srduck on Feb 22, 2012 22:44:37 GMT -5
Does time some how slow as you become one with your car? How can you guys process all this in 70 seconds? Yes.... things seem much much slower when you're actually driving vs riding passenger. As for processing it... I really don't. While I'm in grid sitting in my car waiting to pull up to the line, I'm usually going through the course in my head (as best I can remember it). Think it over beforehand, know your marks, then go out and hit them (your marks, not cones). When I overthink things on course, I go slower. When I just kinda zone out and let what happens happen.... I'm fine. It'll come to you, don't worry! Your first event or two is overhwelming because it's SO different than anything you've done on the street. Focus on having fun and everything else will fall into place. As long as you're crossing the timing lights with a smile on your face every time, you're doing it right!  |
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Post by leetaylor92 on Feb 23, 2012 1:34:02 GMT -5
Suspension and stickier tires will help, but.... As a fellow warrior in the battle against understeer(push), I humbly suggest this: Patience. Brake sooner. Slow-in, fast-out. Now, I have to tell you that I am not consistent at doing this. Even with the shocks and slicks, I still experience understeer. My favorite pedal is the one on the right, not the one in the middle, and I, personally, have to force myself to brake sooner. Agreed, Your Genesis and my grand Prix share a handicap, weight, both very heavy cars, fortunately for you rear-drive is a blessing. an advantage to big cars is more torque normally. You can make up that slow entry on your exit with light hands and a heavy foot (just not too heavy ) Some time you have to rotate that car before the corner, hard to explain but yes big cars can fit in Mini size spaces  Just a note, if you run CMP.... the #2 marker at turn 14 is ur last chance braking point... if you miss it, pack a shovel.... |
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Post by philip1 on Feb 23, 2012 6:09:13 GMT -5
All I have to say is if it feels slow and frantic at the same time it's usually quick
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Post by cr89x on Feb 23, 2012 6:29:29 GMT -5
Looking ahead in an s2000 is key. Everything is such a blur in those cars. I'm sure your eyesight will adjust as get used to it. I have not spent enough time in one to know. I feel so sloppy when I drive one though because everything is such a blur.
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Post by z3elda on Feb 23, 2012 7:11:29 GMT -5
Dagou Glad you had fun at your first autocross, and I hope to see you regularly put your S2000 to the test. It's an amazing car and loads of fun to drive. As far as any help, we have almost a million S2000's in the club, and all of them willing to give you some time and hopefully answer any questions you might have. I have the cool yellow one with the boyracer wing, so if you have any questions I will be happy to help. Almost a million S2000's? .. then there must be 1.5 million Miatas out there.. LOL |
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Post by soloracer on Feb 23, 2012 22:36:09 GMT -5
Dagou Glad you had fun at your first autocross, and I hope to see you regularly put your S2000 to the test. It's an amazing car and loads of fun to drive. As far as any help, we have almost a million S2000's in the club, and all of them willing to give you some time and hopefully answer any questions you might have. I have the cool yellow one with the boyracer wing, so if you have any questions I will be happy to help. Almost a million S2000's? .. then there must be 1.5 million Miatas out there.. LOL By actual count there are a gadzillion "secretary cars" out there Oh, i meant to type Miater. |
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Post by Donutz on Feb 24, 2012 11:31:10 GMT -5
^^^LOL
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Post by caSSino on Feb 29, 2012 10:56:06 GMT -5
At future events, when they're asking for a car to co-drive (I'm speaking of Casino, here.. just so we're clear), let them co-drive yours. Take in EVERYTHING that they're doing. Don't JUST watch their line and where they're going. One run watch their head and their hands as they look ahead and their steering inputs. Another run, watch their feet and those inputs... whether they ease into the throttle or are less subtle with it. Hey my Miata is together and I have a job now so my car will be ready to race sometime...... (ok your right) . P.S. Yes I will Autocross anything. Waiting to tick an H1 Hummer off my list. ;D |
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Post by Jay MR on Feb 29, 2012 12:43:53 GMT -5
Zmax was first shot at autox and I loved it. Only been wanting to do it for the last 30 years. Yes I am signing up for the novice class, what a great opportunity. A few words on the first event. First everyone was so helpful friendly. Several folks really took a chunk out of their day to help me out, to talk to me, to calm the first day jitters. Thanks to you all who helped the shinny blue S2000! Second was the driving. Look ahead, there was not one person that i talked to that did not tell me that! The whole driving experience was just too fast, blurrrrrrrrrr of cones and turns and squeals, sometimes me sometimes my tires, and i am going sideways and now I am sideways the other way and now it is over. How in the world do you tell if you need to adjust your left rear tire, add a click of dampening to a shock, or add a degree of camber? Does time some how slow as you become one with your car? How can you guys process all this in 70 seconds? But again thanks everyone, hope to see you all soon. I spun my first 350z 8 times during 8 runs, while DNF'ing all 8 runs One thing was for sure, I could not wait for the next event the following weekend. I could not read a course, let alone drive one to completion for my first few events |
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Post by yellow CR on Mar 5, 2012 20:55:10 GMT -5
Lets get some more students please. Everyone can't be a helper, and some of the helpers should be students. This will NOT be a hang out and get free seat time event.
During the classroom session, if you are experienced and know what the rules are, the classroom will not be mandatory and you will be allowed to drive.
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Post by Donutz on Mar 5, 2012 20:58:53 GMT -5
commence sleeper out (still can't say that on here can we lol)
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Post by Donutz on Mar 5, 2012 21:15:02 GMT -5
All the major Subaru forums have been alerted (with our local CCSC being one of them), I'll post on WNC rides if I still have a subscription....lol)
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Post by yellow CR on Mar 5, 2012 21:44:01 GMT -5
Thank you Chief of Shenanigans
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Post by z3elda on Mar 5, 2012 22:59:21 GMT -5
Lets get some more students please. Everyone can't be a helper, and some of the helpers should be students. This will NOT be a hang out and get free seat time event. During the classroom session, if you are experienced and know what the rules are, the classroom will not be mandatory and you will be allowed to drive. I'm gonna sit right here and think about it. |
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Post by uncoiled on Mar 6, 2012 0:05:33 GMT -5
Should I go ahead and register now if I'm not 100% sure I can make it or not, I would be a student, and if I do preregister but don't prepay just in case I cant make it, will it cost more to pay at the event?
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Post by philip1 on Mar 6, 2012 5:06:30 GMT -5
Nope it only costs more if you're late
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Post by cr89x on Mar 6, 2012 6:00:39 GMT -5
Should I go ahead and register now if I'm not 100% sure I can make it or not, I would be a student, and if I do preregister but don't prepay just in case I cant make it, will it cost more to pay at the event? That would be fine. I ask that you send an email, address provided on the registration page, to inform us if you are coming or not when you know. |
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Post by Donutz on Mar 6, 2012 19:14:28 GMT -5
but of course |
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Post by drum3 on Mar 16, 2012 13:04:38 GMT -5
OK , some updates , Suzanne cant make it tomorrow and I just sold our ES Miata so I have nothing to play in during Instructor time so if someone wants some input or coaching during instructor time I would be glad to abuse ,,mmm ,, I mean drive your car during that time . just hit me up tomorrow morning .
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Mar 16, 2012 13:33:44 GMT -5
I'll let you take a few spins in my S if you want. It understeers like a b**** right now because I haven't had time to readjust the FSB. Would be fun to hear/see your impression of it.
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Post by drum3 on Mar 16, 2012 18:54:36 GMT -5
Sweet , I like challenges |
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Just a note, if you run CMP.... the #2 marker at turn 14 is ur last chance braking point... if you miss it, pack a shovel.... 
