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Post by cr89x on Apr 28, 2013 9:51:47 GMT -5
The Carolina Cup is also known as the CCR - SCR battle and typically done at Black Lake. This year we are doing it at the June zMax event. In years past we've done a combination of numbers utilizing PAX results to determine the winner. First thought is top ten PAX for each club.
New thought, give your opinions. What if we took top eight from each club and then did a pax bracket Shootout much like a Match Tour Evolution Shootout?? It could make things interesting.
Weigh in your opinions and possibly other ideas.
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Apr 28, 2013 10:04:07 GMT -5
I think a mini-shootout would make things a bit interesting and fun.
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Post by drum3 on Apr 28, 2013 11:24:13 GMT -5
Top 4 from each club in a shootout, or top pax from each club from each run group. With the run group you could have some brackets run before the last run group is done cutting down on your extra time
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Post by 1slowcrx on Apr 28, 2013 12:02:34 GMT -5
Top 4 from each club in a shoot out for me too.
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Post by rapidbutterfly on Apr 28, 2013 14:46:48 GMT -5
If I understand it correctly, I like the second of Anthony's suggestions.
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Post by rcogburn on Apr 28, 2013 17:24:43 GMT -5
Mini Shoot Out with the Top 4 from each club would be a very fair and fun event to watch..........But why not add some of the drama from the Evolution Style format ALSO take the 4 slowest PAX from each club put the names in a hat random draw 1 each from each club run a best two outta three with those folks call it the " Club Bonus PAX Shootout" and then assign that to the winning club for the championship Shoot out. That way everyone that drives from each club has a chance to help decide the outcome !
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Post by yellow CR on Apr 28, 2013 18:16:42 GMT -5
I like the shootout style for the Carolina Cup, but I don't like the top 4 in PAX from each club aspect of it. All this means is whoever has the single fastest driver will win and that is not a club competition.
If we were to say take top 5 and have them face off in a best 2 out of 3 shootout. And have the winning team be the one with more match wins.
1 vs 1
2 vs 2
3 vs 3
4 vs 4
5 vs 5
We also could use more drivers and as Randy mentioned use the slowest drivers as well and do something like Top 5 and Bottom 2 in PAX all facing off in competition against each other.
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Post by rcogburn on Apr 28, 2013 19:25:01 GMT -5
I think I like Mikes idea even better ;D That way it's really a total club effort and involves all the regions drivers not just the top drivers or what really amounts to about the 3% who usually decide the cup  |
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Post by rapidbutterfly on Apr 28, 2013 19:34:22 GMT -5
the advantage of Anthony's idea - again, I might not be understanding it right - would be that you could have drivers from the A, B, C, and D categories, where A = 1-30, B = 31 - 60, etc. Then a driver from every level would be represented.
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Post by z3elda on Apr 28, 2013 22:36:47 GMT -5
Adapt the format we are using for The Solo Cup Team competition. Which I think is what Mina is thinking of.
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Post by 05astock on Apr 28, 2013 22:39:33 GMT -5
Gum out style, where all " top drivers" run the same car. Whether someone offers a car for maybe a free entry or someone with a connection to sponsor the Carolina cup
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Post by dasautochris on Apr 29, 2013 5:59:24 GMT -5
I like the idea of the same car. Maybe get a local dealer to sponsor the race by offering a car. Not even sure if that would be possible. Something kinda slow and underprepped so it would be all about the driver.
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Post by dasautochris on Apr 29, 2013 6:02:34 GMT -5
Or something comical like a minivan. If minivans are legal to autocross.
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Post by markt on Apr 29, 2013 8:54:24 GMT -5
We might be able to get Jon to loan his kart for the shared vehicle...
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Post by srduck on Apr 29, 2013 12:19:34 GMT -5
We might be able to get Jon to loan his kart for the shared vehicle... If that's the case, CCR is screwed. SCR's two fastest drivers (Geoff Zimmer and Mike Jones) might actually fit on Jon's kart!  |
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Post by rapidbutterfly on Apr 29, 2013 12:38:18 GMT -5
Maybe we should make it a sportbike instead. :-) (nah, I know, not enough wheels)
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Apr 29, 2013 13:08:10 GMT -5
I like the idea of breaking it up into the same brackets that we have for the solo cup... top drivers from 1-30, 31-60, 61-90. Maybe the top two drivers from each club in each bracket.
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Post by yellow CR on Apr 29, 2013 14:55:13 GMT -5
Make 3 brackets
A - 1-40
B - 41-80
C - 81-120
Take top 3 in PAX from each club per bracket.
Making 9 drivers per team, in a best 2 out of 3 format.
Most match wins, wins.
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Post by CoolGuy094 on Apr 29, 2013 16:46:23 GMT -5
Ohhh, I like it cause there's a chance I might be in the top 40's bracket. Will we have enough time to do potentially 54 more runs after our normal event runs? And who will work the course during these shootout runs?
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Post by drum3 on Apr 29, 2013 17:35:43 GMT -5
An extra 50-60 runs tacks on a lot of extra time ....Maybe 4 brackets , 1 driver from each bracket per club . Best of 2 runs wins that bracket .
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Post by rapidbutterfly on Apr 29, 2013 17:54:46 GMT -5
That sounds good to me.
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Post by yellow CR on Apr 29, 2013 17:56:55 GMT -5
I'm fine with the extra time for the shootout runs. The shootout should not take more than 30-40 minutes.
We can have 1st car off at 9:30.
As for course workers, we can use the people who are late to sign up for work assignments for their group. We really don't need 5-6 people standing at the same corner station like we did last event. So those people can work the shootout.
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Post by mcoolong on Apr 29, 2013 18:29:51 GMT -5
I really like the idea of an A/B/C bracket. Gives everyone something to shoot for.
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Post by soloracer on Apr 29, 2013 23:42:44 GMT -5
My idea: five man tag team with tire irons.
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Post by PinkBimmer on Apr 30, 2013 6:08:18 GMT -5
I like Mikes idea, and for some strange reason I had a dream about it, but it was a death match, luckily I suck and wasn't involved.  sorry in advance to those that were involved we will miss some of you. |
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Post by kraigklip on Apr 30, 2013 8:54:15 GMT -5
ProSolo bracket. Take the winners of each class and put into a single elimination bracket. You have to get closest to your fastest time (with-out going faster or you're eliminated) with the person that got closest wins said pairing. ProSolo is all about consistency.
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Post by kraigklip on Apr 30, 2013 8:56:49 GMT -5
Gum out style, where all " top drivers" run the same car. Whether someone offers a car for maybe a free entry or someone with a connection to sponsor the Carolina cup I like this idea, and I volunteer my car. Lets see if we can get more than 8 drivers in one day ;D |
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Post by kraigklip on Apr 30, 2013 8:59:11 GMT -5
Ok, how about top drivers from each bracket drive my car?
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Post by srduck on Apr 30, 2013 9:14:29 GMT -5
Ok, how about top drivers from each bracket drive my car? And to make it REALLY interesting we can throw my 6 year old General Exclaim UHPs on it! |
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Post by 05astock on Apr 30, 2013 10:33:28 GMT -5
You would obviously have the advantage but I guess it's all good since you volunteered your car. I've just always been a fan of a "neutral" car battle ideally not any of the competition cars but anything would be great.
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sorry in advance to those that were involved we will miss some of you. 