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Post by yellow CR on Mar 25, 2013 17:47:31 GMT -5
Here are some vids from the Black Lake event.
Here is Marske's very impressive 63.3, since he was in a RWD car with more power than can ever be applied on course.
Here is my unimpressive 65.7
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Post by racerjon1 on Mar 25, 2013 19:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by rapidbutterfly on Mar 26, 2013 10:12:28 GMT -5
Jon, thanks for getting all those pictures. I'm interested in the hi-res version of the one you posted of mine, and of course I am curious if you got others. You can message me through here or use my email address (first name dot last name at Gmail).
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Post by gxpmatt on Mar 26, 2013 12:20:18 GMT -5
Looks like results are up at SCR's website: www.scsportscar.com/solo/schedule/2013-result/2013-e1/summary/ It was a good day to have an Audi TT! Some funny stuff I see though, like some people had a street tire multiplier in intermediate and pro class but they subtracted .025 from the base index instead of multiplying by .975, and there is an STF car in the street tire class, which doesn't make sense. |
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Post by cr89x on Mar 26, 2013 19:39:49 GMT -5
I'm not going to touch on the Street Tire PAX subject. I agree for its purpose of coming about, but it allows for crappy scenarios in wet weather. It gives those that would have a disadvantage an advantage. Anyway, it was SCR's event so we are going with how they run their event. I ok'd the decisions they made. CCR results and Points will be posted as seen for SCR. I'll have them up by weeks end.
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Post by integra55 on Mar 26, 2013 21:08:26 GMT -5
like mentioned above ... a ST car can't run in T class .... (T STF  ) |
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Post by matthugie on Mar 27, 2013 18:25:50 GMT -5
I'm curious as to whether the "don't work and you lose your times" was at all enforced. I was working group 3 and we only had 13 people working that entire course, which was ridiculous.
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Post by W. Dean Furr on Mar 27, 2013 19:00:48 GMT -5
I'm curious as to whether the "don't work and you lose your times" was at all enforced. I was working group 3 and we only had 13 people working that entire course, which was ridiculous. I'm curious too. We were running in Group 4, and it was obvious there were fewer course-workers than there had been in earlier groups. It worked out okay, but it's a bit frustrating to know we stood in the wet and cold 90 minutes working for folks who decided going home was worth more to them than returning the favor. The best-run rule isn't as important to me as the fact that they apparently didn't give a rip about their fellow competitors. |
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Post by W. Dean Furr on Mar 27, 2013 19:02:57 GMT -5
By the way, my apologies to the Group 4 workers for the cone I ran over intentionally. I knew the run would be a DNF unless I hit the cone. But I wasn't thinking about how friggin miserable it was for those who had to run after the cone.
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Post by drum3 on Mar 27, 2013 19:33:50 GMT -5
Looking at the Pax times , removing the multiplier still leaves the top 4 as is . And in my opinion , since RT cant run Hoosier wets , they still deserve a small multiplier in the wet . Some tests have put the Conti DW and Toyo very close to the Hoosier in standing water conditions but there have been just as many that see the Hoosier .5 to .7 quicker than either .
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Post by lilgunny on Mar 28, 2013 9:43:48 GMT -5
And we know how well the Hoosier wets work...
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Post by ball80 on Mar 28, 2013 12:41:04 GMT -5
Group 2. Who works run 4 has a lot of core and pre race workers. So they do their work in other ways than course work.
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Post by cr89x on Mar 28, 2013 15:31:59 GMT -5
SCR policy for workers. Very interesting Matt. I'll forward that information. Thank you!
FYI Pro ran 3rd so that would have been 1st group that should have been light and it was stacked with workers.
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Post by integra55 on Mar 28, 2013 19:19:38 GMT -5
and I was told that they had 5 ( or more) "working" in grid ... if the track was that lightly maned then maybe some of the grid could have been re-assigned ..........
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Post by lancer360 on Mar 29, 2013 7:52:24 GMT -5
Not all of the core workers are in pro. Some of us run intermediate which was run group 2. I know I worked both 3 and 4. Timing was a freaking mess after AXware crashed. A bunch of registration changes and reclassifications were lost. I couldn't believe how many people Duck new off the top of his head. Seemed like every other car coming to the line I called out the car number and class and he said that is XXXX XXXX and his registration isn't coming up. He would then fix it before the car even launched. I would have had to ask the starter to get the name of the person on the line which would have probably slowed the pace of cars being released a bit. Luckily when I was running timing in group 4 most of those entries were coming up correctly in AXWare.
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Post by z3elda on Mar 30, 2013 0:37:12 GMT -5
I have no doubt a few people skipped out, but I don't think is was wide-spread. There is so much work in these events that doesn't involve actual course work, both before and during the event...
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Post by matthugie on Mar 30, 2013 9:15:46 GMT -5
If there were 5+ in grid when 3 stations only had 2 workers then someone needs a talking to. Also, from what I gathered, 7 or 8 of the 13 course workers were novices, which was why we had some of the course issues we did during that run group.
I agree with what someone else said, I don't really care about the penalties, and maybe everyone else did waivers and tech, I don't know. The point is that we didn't have enough people to cover the entire course. Yes, being out in that weather sucks, but I really feel bad for some of the drivers. There was a VW Rabbit that had to stop multiple times to tell people there was a cone in the middle of the course, which I'm sure is frustrating and ruins focus. There was also the complaint of the cones in the last slalom being out of place. When that keeps happening are you focusing on your driving or wondering where the course is going to be wrong when you get there? For a driver like myself who isn't particularly competitive (especially in those conditions) it's not a big deal, but for Pro class that is an issue. Just my $0.02
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Post by integra55 on Mar 30, 2013 9:23:43 GMT -5
If there were 5+ in grid when 3 stations only had 2 workers then someone needs a talking to. that info came from a grid worker in the 4th work group ..... |
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Post by cr89x on Mar 30, 2013 11:33:39 GMT -5
Matt, I can understand your frustration and yes it is distracting to worry more about the course being the same than driving. I've had to cover a slalom before by myself. It is a pain to cover that much ground, get cones in correct spots, and call them in. It sucks! Impounded with crappy weather, ugh! I can only imagine. Never be afraid to radio in looking for help.
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Post by cwguy5 on Apr 1, 2013 9:48:18 GMT -5
I'm curious as to whether the "don't work and you lose your times" was at all enforced. I was working group 3 and we only had 13 people working that entire course, which was ridiculous. I overheard someone saying that they were missing 2 novices in work group #3. Maybe that was a mistake or they were really out there but we seemed pretty stretched. And yes there was a few rookie mistakes in that group but it may have been because we had too much area to cover. |
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